• GUESTS

    If You  want access  to member only forums on FM, You will need to Sign-in or  Sign-Up now .

    This box will disappear once you are signed in as a member.

  • WE CREATE LONG TERM, MEANINGFUL RELATIONSHIPS IN HERE ... PLEASE JOIN US.

    You know what we all love...

    RECEIVE THE GIFTS MEMBERS SHARE WITH YOU HERE...THEN...CREATE SOMETHING TO ENCHANT OTHERS THAT YOU WANT TO SHARE
    When you enchant people, you fill them with delight and yourself in return. Have Fun!!!

Sign in to follow this  
IFallsRon

Twins projected lineup

Recommended Posts

IFallsRon

Here's the projection as posted on mlbdotcom

Projected batting order

1. CF Carlos Gomez:

.232 BA, .288 OBP, .304 SLG, 2 HR, 12 RBI in 2007

2. C Joe Mauer:

.293 BA, .382 OBP, .426 SLG, 7 HR, 60 RBI in 2007

3. LF Delmon Young:

.288 BA, .316 OBP, .408 SLG, 13 HR, 93 RBI in 2007

4. 1B Justin Morneau:

.271 BA, .343 OBP, .492 SLG, 31 HR, 111 RBI in 2007

5. RF Michael Cuddyer:

.276 BA, .356 OBP, .433 SLG, 16 HR, 81 RBI in 2007

6. DH Jason Kubel:

.273 BA, .335 OBP, .450 SLG, 13 HR, 65 RBI in 2007

7. 2B Brendan Harris:

.286 BA, .343 OBP, .434 SLG, 12 HR, 59 RBI in 2007

8. 3B Mike Lamb:

.289 BA, .366 OBP, .453 SLG, 11 HR, 40 RBI in 2007

9. SS Adam Everett:

.232 BA, .281 OBP, .318 SLG, 2 HR, 15 RBI in 2007

Projected rotation

1. Scott Baker, 9-9, 4.26 ERA in 2007

2. Boof Bonser, 8-12, 5.01 ERA in 2007

3. Francisco Liriano , Did not pitch in 2007

4. Kevin Slowey, 4-1, 4.73 ERA in 2007

5. Nick Blackburn , 0-2, 7.71 ERA in 2007, Glen Perkins , 0-0, 3.12 ERA in 2007, or Brian Duensing , never pitched in Majors

Projected bullpen

Closer: Joe Nathan, 37/41 saves, 1.88 ERA in 2007

RH setup man: Pat Neshek, 2.94 ERA in 2007

LH setup man: Dennys Reyes, 3.99 ERA in 2007

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Scott K

Doesnt look to bad. Pitching may be a question mark, but they may end up being real good too. About a month and a half we will see.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Ice Ranger

The offense looks good. For some reason, I hear they plan on batting Delmong Young towards the middle of the lineup, near the 5 or 6 hole.

I have a feeling Minnesota picks up a veteran pitcher before the start of spring training. That would mean a lot to that staff!

Nathan might be gone... Who knows.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Maximum12

Yowza. I thought I was a homer!

The offense looks...bad. Can anyone tell me where the production of Hunter & Castillo is going to be replaced?

Castillo -> Harris, big step down

Hunter -> Gomez, massive step down

Young -> White, big step up

Bartlett -> Everett, big step down

Lamb -> Punto, step up

Anyone see the Twins mediocre offense last year? They've lost a .300 leadoff hitter & a veteran power threat & replaced them with the potential of Young &, well, more "potential".

Let's not kid ourselves. This is 2007 all over again. A rock-solid core of players who might be legit All-Stars surrounded by a supporting cast of junk. Barring miracle years from multiple Twins hitters, they'll be lucky to finish in the middle of the pack in runs scored in 2008.

Hope I'm wrong, but 2008 is going to get ugly.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
NAPAFISH

Look out KC we are comin!!!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Dahitman44

At some point, they will figure out that Young belongs in the three hole -- it might just take a little time.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
fishyguy

 Originally Posted By: Dahitman44
At some point, they will figure out that Young belongs in the three hole -- it might just take a little time.

I agree but he has to quit striking out every 3rd at bat.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
zamboni

 Originally Posted By: NAPAFISH
Look out KC we are comin!!!

WATCH IT- the Royals are improving every year, and were ahead of the Sox for a week or two last season, give them a few and they might contend. Snicker all you want, I used to live there and keep up with them, second only to the Twins. Imagine if the Royals OF was still Beltran, Dye, Damon- they'd be dangerous

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
PierBridge

Good thing baseball isn't played on paper.....because it sure doesn't look all that good on paper!

Go Twins!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Windy City Walleye Hunter

Pier,

I was thinking the same thing but I did not want to be the first to say it since I am the enemy! That line up did not strike fear into my heart and man that pitching rotation sure looked a lot better two years ago. Yo is gone and Liriano is unproven coming off the major cutting. We shall see.

Windy

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Dahitman44

It will be interesting to see what Liriano can do. Some say he will be stronger after the surgery.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
IFallsRon

The ChiSox 07 opening day lineup looked pretty dominant but sure took a big one so I'll wait until they hit the field before issuing pink slips.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Windy City Walleye Hunter

Agreed on both points!

Windy

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Willy

Max12,

I would not say that Harris is a big step down from Castillo if they both put up similiar numbers next year. They both posted about the same OPS, Harris's was actually about 30 points higher.

One position we have upgraded at though would be DH. Take Kubels numbers put them in that spot and compare it to our platoon DH of last year.

Other than that, your predictions are right on.

I don't think they will be much better or much worse offensively than last year. Combine that with the young pitching and it will probably be a learning season.

Hopefully some of these young guys will play well and get us excited for the future. I don't like our chances to be very near the playoffs this year.:o

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
thehawk

I love the twins, but lets face it we could get more production with gardy hittin out of the Dh spot then what we have gotten over the last several years from that spot. there roster is so unproven. Kubel better step up, we paid him big money for a guy who has shown nothing but potential, never any real production. That staff is in serious trouble. Santana showed zero loyalty and forced the trade, we had to get "something" in return. They offered him 20 million per year for 4 years, and it was not enough to keep him, some home town discount!! He is a chump. I thought he was a classy guy, but he sold us down the river for 2 or 3 years and just a little more money. He is a great pitcher, but he has half the personality of a herbeck or puckett, even a blylevin. They have zero depth and no one but another rookie to look to. Nathan is useless if we can't get him the ball in a save situation cuz we all know that if it isn't a save situation he is average at best. If fans can see it is rebuilding, why cant they as a team say that. we all know that they are not going to get a veteran pitcher in that camp. It will be a tough year for them. Enjoy the season anyways, I will...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
walleyeking19

i just noticed not one of the guys averaged over .300 last year. eek.gif

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Ice Ranger

 Originally Posted By: Maximum12
Yowza. I thought I was a homer!

The offense looks...bad. Can anyone tell me where the production of Hunter & Castillo is going to be replaced?

Castillo -> Harris, big step down

Hunter -> Gomez, massive step down

Young -> White, big step up

Bartlett -> Everett, big step down

Lamb -> Punto, step up

Anyone see the Twins mediocre offense last year? They've lost a .300 leadoff hitter & a veteran power threat & replaced them with the potential of Young &, well, more "potential".

Let's not kid ourselves. This is 2007 all over again. A rock-solid core of players who might be legit All-Stars surrounded by a supporting cast of junk. Barring miracle years from multiple Twins hitters, they'll be lucky to finish in the middle of the pack in runs scored in 2008.

Hope I'm wrong, but 2008 is going to get ugly.

Castillo provided no power whatsoever. Harris is a high .200's, possibly a .300 hitter with a little bit of pop. Some could say Harris is an improvement, just not quite the speed.

The real loss in this lineup is Hunter, and he has been replaced with the pickup of Young. Young is probably a better hitter than Hunter. If not 2008, he surely will be in the long run.

Bartlett never provided us with any consistency, so I don't look at that as a loss.

We don't know with Lamb yet. If he can hit like he normally does the entire season, we can expect .280 and possibly 25 HR's from him.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
PierBridge

 Originally Posted By: walleyeking19
i just noticed not one of the guys averaged over .300 last year. eek.gif

Can't be Tori Hunter just received the largest contract in Angles Team history he must have hit at least .347... sleep.gif

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Maximum12

 Quote:
Castillo provided no power whatsoever. Harris is a high .200's, possibly a .300 hitter with a little bit of pop. Some could say Harris is an improvement, just not quite the speed.

The real loss in this lineup is Hunter, and he has been replaced with the pickup of Young. Young is probably a better hitter than Hunter. If not 2008, he surely will be in the long run.

Bartlett never provided us with any consistency, so I don't look at that as a loss.

We don't know with Lamb yet. If he can hit like he normally does the entire season, we can expect .280 and possibly 25 HR's from him.

If Harris is an upgrade from Castillo, why aren't the Twins handing him 2B? I was appalled after the trade when Smith kept saying "we need to fill the hole at 2B". Then why trade for another utility-style infielder, don't we have enough already? Throw in Castillo's vastly superior glove & the fact that we have no legit leadoff hitter & the Twins will feel the loss of Castillo.

Bartlett to Everett...if you don't think that's a loss go look at their stats the past two years. Serious ouch.

Lamb? That's a straight-up fantasy. If he was a 25HR, .280 guy, he'd have found an everyday job by now. The most ABs he's had since 2000 is 381, not even close to full-time. I think the best we can hope for is what he did last year, 12HR & 50RBI, give or take. You know Gardy is going to sit him against lefties to get Punto some time in the lineup.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Dahitman44

Lamb --

My guess is that you guys will be surprised a little.

His stats should be right inbetween -- 19 hrs and 75 RBI -- that is a massive upgrade over Punto or anyone else we have had since ... ummm ... the G-man, I guess.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
frogtosser

they are not starting liriano, why would they risk pushing him so fast he will be in the pen.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Willy

 Originally Posted By: frogtosser
they are not starting liriano, why would they risk pushing him so fast he will be in the pen.

He might be, but everything I have read says that he will be given a chance in ST to show that he is ready and CAN win a rotation job right out of the gate.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
10,000 Casts

They should have kept Santana one more season and let him walk, spent a little money on a center fielder and make a run at it.

NOW LOOK AT WHAT THEY HAVE, A SUB 500 Club with no Offence and no pitching... should be fun to watch, way to go twins!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
10,000 Casts

But hey, we have an awesome bullpen and one of the best closers in Baseball. The bottom innings should be fun to watch when everyone is 0-4 and 1-4.

Does this not make sence to anyone else?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Scott K

I am optimistic, but I think the Twins will be as good as last year. They may miss the playoffs, but they will keep it close and still be in it till the end.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.
Sign in to follow this  

Announcements



  • Your Responses - Share & Have Fun :)

    • DLD24
      Do you have any tips for fishing Fish Lake this time of year? I'm gonna try it out in the next few days... Is it typically an early morning, late evening bite or can you get them all day long? Thanks for any info.
    • PRO-V
      Calling them would be your best bet. Maybe you can reserve some on a card.
    • delcecchi
      starft you off.... https://www.dnr.state.mn.us/lakefind/lake.html?id=69066000 http://files.dnr.state.mn.us/lakefind/data/lakemaps/b0537011.pdf Status of the Fishery Ely Lake is located approximately 2 miles SE of the city of Eveleth. This popular lake is highly developed with homes and cabins. There is a small seaplane base and two public swimming beaches also located there. Water clarity is good and large amounts of aquatic vegetation can be found throughout the lake. 

      There is a concrete planked boat ramp and dock located near the NE end of the lake off Cedar Island Drive (CR629) for public access. The parking space is somewhat limited near the ramp. Several private accesses are also present. 

      Thirteen species of fish were sampled during the 2017 survey on Ely Lake. Gill nets, trap nets and night electrofishing were all used to sample the fish community. Small bluegill were common in the gill net catch (34%) and abundant in the trap net catch (57%). Other panfish species including hybrid sunfish, pumpkinseed, green sunfish and black crappie were also sampled in good numbers. Largemouth bass outnumbered smallmouth bass in the 2017 sample. Walleye (16%) contributed to the gill net catch and several were sampled in the trap nets. Yellow perch are present in average amounts and some good sized pike were again sampled during the 2017 survey. 

      Bluegill numbers in 2017 (72.1/trap net) were much higher than the long term average (31.6/trap net) on Ely Lake and greatly above average (7.9/trap net) compared to other similar lakes in the area. The average bluegill sampled was 5.6 inches long and about 6 years old. Approximately 66% of the bluegill sampled with the trap nets were under 6 inches with a maximum size recorded of 8.0 inches. Bluegill sampled with the gill nets had a similar size structure. Approximately 7% of the hybrid sunfish sampled in the trap nets were 8 inches or larger. Several pumpkinseeds were also in this size range. 

      Largemouth bass (92%) and smallmouth bass (8%) were sampled during the night electrofishing effort. The average largemouth sampled was 10.9 inches which is similar to the historic average of 10.6 inches. The biggest largemouth sampled was 18.5 inches. Approximately 33% of the largemouth sampled were 12 inches or larger. The average smallmouth sampled was 9.8 inches which is slightly larger than the historic average (8.4 inches). The largest smallmouth sampled was 16.8 inches long. Approximately 32% of the smallmouth sampled were 12 inches or larger. Largemouth bass were also sampled from the gill nets and trap nets in numbers above average. 

      Walleye numbers in 2017 (6.2/gill net) were similar to the historic average (6.1/gill net) on Ely Lake and slightly above average (5.0/gill net) when compared to other similar area lakes with walleye. The average walleye sampled was 15.5 inches and about 4 years old. Approximately 34% of the walleye sampled were 15 inches or larger up to a maximum of nearly 29 inches. Walleye fingerlings are currently being stocked during even-numbered years and in 2017 approximately 62% of the walleye aged came from years where stocking occurred. 

      Northern pike numbers in 2017 (1.1/gill net) were similar to the historic average (1.3/gill net) and below average (3.2/gill net) compared to other similar area lakes with pike. The average pike sampled was 26.8 inches which is similar to the historic average length of 26.3 inches. The largest pike sampled in 2017 was 35.2 inches long and sampled with a trap net. 
    • gizmoguy
      Yes they do. Many resorts are set up for summer usage. Understand you can't use your FH in the storage lots. Only in a summer use lot. You have to pay for it. The cost is in addition to your winter fees. Usually more $ but the season is longer. The county requires the resorts to have bathroom facilities within a certain distance. Mac's Twin Bay has summer lots as do many others. Hunter's Point is another. Doubt Brandt's is set up for summer.
    • DRAGFOOT
      Sweet! Heading back up tonight through the weekend. Bringing the wife and little one this time instead of my buddies, hopefully the weather cooperates.
    • Neutz68
      Heading up Sat morning and will be looking for Shiners. Anyone know if the Gateway and/or Kab Outdoors have them in stock??    Thanks for the input.
    • crappieslapper
      Hi Guys & Gals, My brother in law recently purchased a property on Ely Lake. All the boys are invited up this year on Memorial. Unfortunately nobody in the family has been on the lake before. I thought I would reach out to the pros here on the forum to see if anyone would be willing to give us a few tips on fishing this lake. Thanks in advance, Dan
    • crappieslapper
      Hey Forum, My brother in law just purchased on Ely Lake. Memorial weekend will be the first time on lake. Wondering if anyone has some experience/tips they would be willing to offer the Ely lake rookies. Thanks so much. Dan
    • huntnfish
      I made it out last Sunday and did some searching for walleye. The search didn't produce any walleyes, just northerns and smallies. The water temp on the main lake was 58-59 with the bays being about 5 degrees warmer. The people I have talked to have had similar issues finding the eyes. We missed some fish that left the shiner all chewed up. Most of the fish marked were out in that 18-21 foot range which seemed pretty deep for this early. It could have been Saturday's cold front that pushed them a little deeper though. 
    • Hoey
      SRJ - Thanks for the report.  I heard the bite was very-good to excellent, off the rocks/reefs, in the mud/sand.  I will be at the lake fishing this weekend.