• GUESTS

    If You  want access  to member only forums on FM, You will need to Sign-in or  Sign-Up now .

    This box will disappear once you are signed in as a member.

  • Join In - We Share Fishing Reports & Outdoor Information Here

     
      You know what we all love...

      The same things you do!!!! Share what you love & enjoy in the outdoors as well as thank those whose posts you 'appreciate.'

      Have Fun!!!

Sign in to follow this  
Yellow Dog

CK - Hair Jigs?

Recommended Posts

Yellow Dog

CK or anybody else -

I am getting into tying hair jigs (I lose a lot on the river near Red Wing).

Does anybody use small hair jigs for sunnies or crappies in the winter much? With the plastics being pushed a lot, I wonder if these are being overlooked.

Anybody have pics of their favorite colors to tie?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
palisade1kid

I'll use 97% hair & 2% plastics with 1% being meat for pannies.

08iceseason027.jpg

08iceseason029.jpg

08iceseason024.jpg

HPIM1168.jpg

Here's some of the colors I'll use.

Orange/whit or orange/chart.yellow are my favorites.

Black/white or blue/white or pink/white can also be deadly.

Stained waters seem to like yellow combos whereas white combos work better in clear water.

2157541.jpg

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1forwalleye

CK -

Any special pointers on how to fish these small jigs? I am guessing 2 or 4 lb. test line with no bobber? Any advice would be appreciated. I am going to try BSL this weekend. Thanks.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
palisade1kid

yup light line and a small sinker 16" up.

Get in front of the fish and lift the slab 2-5 feet up depending on how far it will go.

Look at the barometer in the a.m. If it's high only lift a foot or 2 if it's low drag the fish up 3-5 foot from the bottom.

64th or 80th's work great.

If the barometer is low you might get away with a 32nd oz.jig.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1forwalleye

thanks again.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Yellow Dog

Nice pics. Now it's time to split hairs--just kidding.

Anyway, it looks like your jigs are deer hair. Ever tried craft hair? Man, that stuff floats like a butterfly.

One thing I am trying to do is to get color combos down so I have things that I can go to. For example, I know that the sunnies will tear up anything white or chartruse. In the same lake though, the crappies always want purple or orange. Getting those unique-can't-buy-over-the-counter colors is cool!

If you any other pics--I gotta get into doing that--it's be great!

I'll be lake hopping in the Aitkin area over Christmas.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
palisade1kid

Give me a shout then.218-845-8801 Let's fish.

The hair I use is kiptail(calf).

bucktail(deer) hairs are hollow and too bulky,plus it takes way too many hairs to cover a hook well in my opinion on these small hooks.

I'll also use rabbit and maribou.

Being able to make any color you want is great and controlling the size is a plus.

I like the silhouette of kip when wet.It also falls slow.

I've used flashabou and several other mediums.

I guess kip is my favorite and when I can catch fish on most days why change?

If you ever want to spend a few minutes over the vice I'm game.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
unotrouble2

All this talk of tying jigs has me wondering if maybe i should look a little deeper into this -- so if i may, where do you get the materials for making these jigs -- cost etc. - also is there a good book to read up on this or a web site that got you started in the jig making business -- another qustion CK, i noticed jigs similar to yours at Willey's when i was up there this past weekend -- do you supply them or am i mistaken?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
palisade1kid

Google up jig tying.There's all sorts of videos to give you an idea of what it takes.

Those jigs are flu-flus in 32nds.

I'm making 64th's,80ths and 100ths.

If you want a lesson come on up.

( Note from admin,please read forum policy before posting again,Thank-you.)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
UdeLakeTom

Are these anything like the "doll flies" we used to be able to get in the '70s and use for pannies?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
palisade1kid

Typically flies do not have a weighted head,whereas jigs do.

In some states you can have a jig on the end of your line for weight and a fly up a foot or two.

You can also drop shot a fly.

Having a weighted jig allows you to effectively work the whole water column.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Yellow Dog

I remember those--I don't know exactly what material was used, but probably maribou.

There are so many different kinds of feathers and hair our there to tie custom stuff--it's amazing.

I just enjoy the thinking process of colors and weights. My daughter really likes picking out colors too.

The main reason I tie is because I don't want to be limited by the store and what they have or don't have. I like certain weights for this and that type of fishing.

I am getting more and more away from live bait--cost and keep it alive.

I like plastics for both winter and summer. But they are sometimes limited in what they can do.

It's totally cool to put a plastic tail bait on the same weight jig as, say, a jig tied with craft hair or maribou. There's no comparison in how it moves and breathes.

Outfishing plastics? Sometimes I do with hair and other times not. It just gives me another option.

Something I have not tried, but I want to--applying scent to hair jigs. Anybody tried it much?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
palisade1kid

Spray some WD40 on the hair or smear some prepH on the plastics.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
UdeLakeTom

If I remember right, they came in 1/16, 1/32 and 1/64th sizes and were black, red, white, blue and yellow.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
palisade1kid

If I knew what they looked like ,I'd try to make a few for you.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
OtdrNut80

Can someone lead me to a web-site or a store in the Twin Cities area tha sells 1/80th or 1/100th sized jig heads? I have been struggling for a few days now to find jig heads this small. Thanks in advance and Good Fishing!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Chauncey

 Originally Posted By: crappiekeith
Spray some WD40 on the hair or smear some prepH on the plastics.

CK- WD40?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
palisade1kid

Not really,I don't do any of that ,but if it gives a guy more confidense so that he'll try to fish without meat.I dunno ,heard it worked.

I used a gell fish scent the other weekend.

It did not seem to matter.

You'd be better of just getting some fish slime into the hair,feathur or fur.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
blackdog1101

Spit on the hair jig and rub it in so the jig does not fill up with air bubbles when you put it under the water. The bubbles will trap in the hair and make the jig look unnatural to the fish.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
blackdog1101

If you Google 1/100oz jigs you should find some sellers where you can order them. I'd give you a link but it's against forum rules.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
palisade1kid

Very good BD,you learn quick.

How's your tying going?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
bowhunter23

Hey CK what kind of hair are you using on your jigs. And what knot do you use to tie it onto your line.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
palisade1kid

It's kiptail and any loop knot will work.The point to tying a loop is so the it will hang horizontal.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
maddowg1192000

wow this looks like fun but i don't want to spend an arm and leg to get started if I don't have to. Any good vises that don't cost a whole lot and what else other than thread, scissors, a bobbin, hair, and jigs would I need to pick up.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
farmfishing

Some different paints, brushes and paint thinner.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.
Sign in to follow this  



  • Your Responses - Share & Have Fun :)

    • Pat McGraw
      outdoor1,   My experience has been that this approach works all the way through October.
    • gimruis
      That's quite the mixed bag!
    • gimruis
      I'm one of those every Tom, Dick, and Harry's.  And I can tell you with 100% positivity that I'm not out there making noise, stinking up the woods, or pushing everything off its normal pattern.  You just generalized every gun hunter into the same group, including me.  I don't make noise, I cover up my scent, and I don't leave my stand at lunch time to go in and push everything off its normal pattern, Wanderer.  Yes, I know hunters like that too but most of the hunters I know aren't like that.  In fact, very few are.  And I can tell you that there are some idiot archery hunters because I know them.  They sling arrows around at 50 yards trying to down deer without practicing which is completely preposterous.   I think what Fins n Feathers is trying to say that technology has advanced our sport to be more efficient.  I do agree that the younger generation is definitely more lazy and less devoted, not only in hunting/fishing but in life generally (that's another topic for another day).  I for one would like to use something more efficient.  If it results in a higher kill rate, better accuracy, and less wounded deer, I'm for it.  If you don't want to use it, then don't.  If you don't want to fish with 10 inch high definition sonar and GPS screens in your boat, then don't.  But just because someone else is using technology to be more efficient doesn't mean its illegal or unethical.  His example of an open sighted 30-30 versus a 300 scoped mag is a great example.    
    • AlwaysFishing23
      I appreciate all your input. I went to Mills yesterday as their starting to put some stuff out. Looked at the hard side gun case and yep I like the protection and price but it’s very big for me I think. I then looked at the clam single sided locker I liked the xtra storage. But your still having to stack rods and it’s not really that rigid. Most of my broken rods came from rods being tangled and stacked and not from being crushed. That being said they had the frabil rod safe. I really liked this one but only downside is it doesn’t hold in line reels that well as it’s not tall enough. So I think I’m going to end up going with a hard sided case. Looking at either the otter, scheels case or similar. If I ever want to buy A TUCR I need something to really protect my setups. I’ll jusg ah e to deal with brining a small tackle bag for tackle and extra stuff. I did look at the flambeau box Rick mentioned and I liked the size and extra storage but it would be a tight fit in my flip over if it would even fit. Anyone have have any experience with the otter or similar hard sided style cases? The scheels case says it’ll hold 4-8 but the otter only 4. Even though it’s bigger I think it would hold 8 no problem.
    • leech~~
      Dang, pulled the battery and put her in storage just last week or that sounds like fun. With all this wet weather it has really put me behind on getting all the fall chores done before hunting season and the winter hits and I need get the sled and ice stuff ready.  I had breakfast at Our Place just this morning coming down from Ely and was thinking of all the rides I have done in that area the last few years.  Lets try to set up a ride-trout outing next spring. 🙂
    • eyeguy 54
      River??  
    • leech~~
      Holy craap. You have one heck of a Duck blind out there! 😅
    • FishinCT
      Fishing Friday and Saturday was a dramatic shift. Seems the west wind got them going. Found a reef on Friday that was loaded up with fish and they were hungry. Fished it for a few hours before losing the battle to the cold. 3 pig smallies up top in 18-20 feet, 3 keeper walleyes between 16-18" and one 25" on the sides of the reef to the transition in 24-30 feet, and 2 jumbos off the transition in the mud at 32 feet. Also lost a BIG fish--the kind that your heart sinks when it comes off the line.    Saturday was more of the same. Biting a little lighter but we managed 6 walleyes from 15-19" in between the rain and getting blown off the lake. Could've easily limited if not for some "miscues"   Did try a little bit of trolling close to dark but only picked up a small muskie. Lots of guys out trolling all weekend but I'm not sure if they were going for walleyes or muskies. Interested to know if anyone on here was one of those guys and will give a report.    Wish I was starting my trip now instead of sitting at home. I think this is going to be a phenomenal week of fishing now that the weather is going to stabilize and warm up. Best of luck to everyone the rest of the year and stay safe. Saw some of the biggest waves I've seen on vermilion with the wind last week. Can get hairy pretty quickly out there
    • Wanderer
      We saw some late birds today also in west central MN.  The beans looked horrible and most corn was still in.  In 2 hours of driving I only saw three corn fields being combined each way.   We saw birds and got some roosters.  About 30% mature to 70% juveniles, not counting those late birds that didn’t fly well.  Birds seemed really jumpy today - odd for opener.  Flushing wild like late season.   Man, my pheasant legs ain’t what they used ta be! 😨
    • outdoor1
      I was wondering if raps at 2 mph would work now. Will the fish still chase them down when the water temps are in the low 40s?