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First things first I only want to know about two streams. Browns Creek in Stillwater, where is the best place to access and The Vermillion River in Farmington, are there really trout in here(its not on the dnr list of streams)? Could anyone help me with these?

Cubbies

Posted

Can't help with brown, but the vermillion has fish in it, both browns and rainbows. You can get at it right in farminton where it runs through the park.

Posted

Thanks you have been a big help, I will try that out tomorrow morning.

Cubbies

Posted

Tell us how you do if you don't mind. I am a beginner trout angler, actually I have never used my fly rod except for practice, and have been interested in checking out the vermillion.

Posted

Cubbies,

you may have already checked it out, but there is a big thread on the vermillion on the trout page. As with most internet threads that are over a few posts long it started good and then turned into a pissing contest. But it does have some good info on it

Posted

I decided to head out this afternoon instead, couldn't wake this morning. Gonna picnic with my girlfriend and then she is goning to wade along. She is intreseted in fly fishing too. Sounds like I found a keeper. I will let you know how I do.

Cubbies

PS I was at Browns yesterday and didn't even see a fish. I fished from 95 96 to the huge water fall.

Posted

Fished the Vermillion today in farmington. It seems to be a great spot to fish, there is only one pitfall...it is really easy to get to. This would be fine but there are too many people fishing it. I saw several trout rejected about 10 flies before I figured out what they were biting on. I was working a fish and this kid comes up with his spinning pole and tosses it in right on top the fish...needless to say I moved to the next hole. There were about 12 people fishing that I saw, talked to one of them and he just broke off a very nice brown. All and all never a bad day fishing.

Cubbies

Posted

Um, if I read your post correctly you said that the Kinni, and Race meet? Actually it is the Willow River, and it's Race branch that meet. Technically both are the Willow.
There are 2 good rivers south of the Kinni. 1. Rush River. 2. Trimbelle River. The WI trout opener is this weekend May 3rd 5:00am. I for one can't wait.

Posted

Went to Browns this morning and nothing going on there again. Didn't even see a fish. Wonder where they all are, I fished every hole hard and didn't come up with anything. I did see some big stone fly nymphs on the rocks and in there shucks yet.


Cubbies

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Magneto

We might be going to the trimbelle. I go with my dad every year for opener. My dads memory is not the best, he's been there once. So any info would be great...Is there any river that meets the kinni at the croix???

THx

Posted

I was wondering if the "Dry and Dropper" combo is legal in Minnesota?

Cubbies

Posted

yes the dropper rig is legal.

Posted

WhaTT
I am not aware of any river, stream, or creek that meets the Kinni near the St. Croix. I have never tried to get to the mouth of the kinni at the St. Croix on foot so I really don't know what is there. If I had a boat it would be a different story, as I'm sure the fishing would be good there. (not trout) Do give the Trimbelle a try. It is were I go when the other rivers that I like are crowded. Not to many people are ever there, and there are some big browns in there! On the other hand, the Rush has given up some big ones too recently. Last Saturday I hooked and landed a 23" brown down by El Paso. My biggest inland brown. (On a fly)
Good luck

Posted

May I suggest the kinni,in wis.Many places to fish, especially when the sun sets. Does anybody know of any other streams south of kinni,or in hudson where the kinni and race meet????

THx

Posted

Magneto

We know where the streams are but where to get to the access point, where you actually fish, we tried the rush 2 years ago I think we just didnt know where the access was. Where all these people say the trout are bigger than the kinni.....Any info to where to get into the stream would be great...


THx

Posted

WhaTT!
OkeeDokee, here ya go. (And for anyone else who is paying attention, I'm giving up secrets) 1st. The Rush River: WI Highway 29 east of River Falls, there is a DNR Parking area that you can start at, you can't miss this one. Continue on 29 east until you reach 29 & 63, south on 63 about 2 miles and you will cross a bridge, this is Martell. Fish right at the bridge, or move upstream, excellent trout water. Continueing south on 63 until County Rd. N go east about 5 miles and you will come into El Paso. The 1st bridge you come to has a DNR easement that you can park at and fish there. Or, keep going on County Rd. G and when you come to 425th st. follow that and you will come to a dead end. Park there and this in my opinion is the best waters, and were I hooked the 23"er. These are the easist places to fish the Rush.

The Timbelle: WI highway 10 east from Prescott untill you reach County Rd. O follow that as it eventually runs along side the Trimbelle. There are a few DNR easments that you can park and fish from there.

As with a majority of Wisconsin trout streams and rivers, the land is mostly private, and you will do yourself well to stop and ask permission. Once you are on any water it is state property. Also, as I'm sure you are aware, you need a WI trout stamp in addition to the regular license. (Just a reminder.)

Hopefully this info will help, and good luck.
Magneto

Posted

Magneto

Wow Thank you!!!!!! Was'nt expecting this. Yea I fished the bridge at the rush. Need any info on the kinni, fished it for 15,since 12 years old.Thanks again,are you giong on opener??

THx

Posted

Ah, the Kinni... To be honest I'm not a real fan of the Kinni. I've had little luck there, and when I do all I catch are little ones, plus in my very humble opinion I think it's kind of overrated, and crowded. I'm the type that doesn't care for crowds. I'm sure there are nice fish in there but I can't seem to find them. As for the opener, I think I'll be targeting Walleyes this year, as the spring, and late fall are my favorite times for the eyes. Because I live in WI I have some great, SECRET shore spots on the St. Croix.

Posted

Which is why I want to get away from the kinni! My dad caught a 36 lb cat just outside of St. Croix, He also said he had a bucket full of walleyes, and smaller cats. Nevers dam....Right

THx

Posted

WhaTT!,

You can access the Rush at hwy 10, hwy 72, and hwy 63. Plus there are end less roads that cross the river where you can access.

I'd have to say that you can have a great shot at a big trout anywhere you can access the river.

Opener is going to be tuff fishing do to all the people that well be out fishing. If you return the weekend after opener you shouldn't have a problem finding a strech of river with no one.

The best times to fish the Rush is early and late in the day or on cloudy days. I makes a huge difference fishing during these times.

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"Study to be quite"

Posted

My experience with the Rush is that the fish can be picky, and the landowners even pickier. I've heard multiple stories of landowners around Martell chucking rocks, etc., at rising fish to tick off the fisherman who are casting for them. I'm sure it's a case of one bad apple spoiling the barrel, and I can understand their frustration if people are trespassing or littering on their property, but my last experience there was enough for me to skip the Rush for a while too. Too bad - beautiful place with some great fishing opportunities.

Posted

Thanks for all the useful Info!!

I am picking up my license & stamp tonight.

I'm still open for any last minute advise.

What kind of Flies, tippit, nymphs, yes even

artificial Ham n egger stuff....

THx

Posted

Heading down to farmington on tuesday anyone have any reports?

Cubbies

Posted

Fished in Farmington today. Saw two 20 plus inch browns and missed a few what I think were rainbows. Overall a good day.

Cubbies

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