tree poachers

[glenn57]

i seen in my area local paper 2 fellows from my fishin/huntin grounds got popped. i know them. it came out of minneapolis.

[jigglestick]

what??

[glenn57]

2 people where charged with cutting down standing trees on national forest land. its an illegal activity. asking about it i was told you cant even cut up a fallen tree for fire wood. thats to bad to let that wood rot and not be able to put it to use. is there a way to get legal permission to cut up fallen trees on goverment land i wonder?

[boatfixer]

I know the son from high school, graduated a year after me. I don't know the laws now, but I thought you could take "down and dying" trees a few years back. maybe the rules have changed. But I've always known standing trees were a no-no.

[glenn57]

boatfixer, we have a place near spring lake store, if you know them you must be from near there also. i talked to a person that i assume has reasonable knowledge of logging and thats what they old me. cant take fallen trees from goverment land. dont see the rational for just letting trees rot away when it can be used for firewood. if someone is more informed on this subject matter please speak out.

[sticknstring]

Always happens this time of year with the firs... People cutting the tops off for Christmas trees and taking boughs for wreaths, etc. Sad to see.

[glenn57]

sticknstring, got a brotherinlaw that lives in maple lake. do you know the janiaks?

[jigglestick]

we used to be able to get a fuel wood permit from the forestry , both county and state. the federal have different rules I think.

they used to want the loggers to run over tree tops that were leftover from limbing the trees, so they would rot and get back into the soil.

then they started chipping the unused portions of the tree to haul to chip markets. now they figure that is robbing the soil of rightful nutrients.

aww I give up keeping track of their hair balled ideas.

the forestry departments keep coming up with new theories and implementing new rules. I can't keep track of it.

I know you can get permits to take balsam, white pine and cedar boughs too.

you have to let them know where you got them and how many pounds/ tons you harvested etc. and pay a fee accordingly.

not that many years ago, the county forester told me I could take live trees from ditch - road rights of way. not full sized trees, but something like 2 - 5 footers and such. he also told me that in doing so, they did not want big craters left behind, that I would need to replace the soil where the tree was dug from(safety issue I guess).

I am not for lobbing off a tree top, basicly ruining the tree from further development, but I see nothing wrong with cutting the family a christmas tree off of public land, in an inconspicuous manner.

I like to take the kids for a hike in a big spruce bog and find a nice spruce tree with good form.

fake trees suck.

[bowwwhunt]

On the Chippewa National Forest you can take dead and down trees for fire wood as long as you get a permit from one of the district offices. On the National Forests they are all for somebody going in after a timber sale and collecting the left over limbs and branches to be chipped, this I think is done with a small contract. This saves them in the long run because otherwise they often have the trees whole skidded to the landing and then limbed and the piles burned or they have the logger pile the slash and burned or another seperate contract to pile the slash and then burned, this is for wildfire protection or for tree planting.

[JIMBO55428]

this year they logged many areas in the chippewa national forest near longville, and they they left lots of waisted wood and branches laying around, what a shame, they are not giving out any permits for this left over wood and you don't want to get caught taking it either, it is a shame!

a few years back they would issue permits but not any more.

[Scott M]

I guess it gets pretty bad during the holidays.

At the U of MN campus, they spray their conifers with a little chemistry concoction. When the thieves get home and put up their trees tops or entire tree, the plant warms to room temperature, the spray on solution kicks in, and the whole room smells like skunk.

Should deter a few thieves. Doesn't work in the Chippewa though.

[Hookmaster]

When I was growing up someone stole a blue spruce out of our front yard before Christmas.