Lease Question

[colonel42 0]

If someone leases land and posts it do they have to put out new signs each year or are the leases set up year to year or a couple years?? Out where I hunt people have leased land maybe three years back and after they leased it they posted it. The other day I drove by and the same old signs are still there. I stopped and read the sign and was just wondering why there was no date on them, just a signiture. I believe the leasor is a paper company out of Grand Rapids MN. I just find it strange that people can post this land with a one year lease and not take down the signs when their lease is over. Just courious!!!

[MNfan 5]

Here is Requlation:

Definitions and Posting Require ments

• “Outdoor Recreation” means any activity including hunting, fishing,

trapping, boating, hiking, camping, and engaging in winter sports

which is conducted primarily for the purposes of pleasure, rest or

relaxation and is dependent on or derives its principal benefit from

natural surroundings.

• “Agricultural land” is land that: 1) is plowed or tilled; 2) has standing

crops or crop residues; 3) is within a maintained fence for enclosing

domestic livestock; 4) is planted to native or introduced grassland or

hay land; or 5) is planted to short-rotation woody crops (hybrid poplar

and other woody plants that are harvested for their fiber within 15

years of planting).

IMPORTANT NOTE: All planted grassland and hayland and all hybrid

poplar and other woody plants that are harvested for their fiber within

15 years of planting meet this definition, including grasslands enrolled in

the federal Conservation Reserve Program (CRP), Conservation Reserve

Enhancement Program (CREP), or the state Reinvest In Minnesota (RIM)

Reserve program. These lands do not need to be posted to prevent unauthorized

trespass. However, land that is brush or trees, including CRP, CREP,

and RIM Reserve that is brush or trees, (except short-rotation woody crops

as defined above) does not meet this definition and must be posted or verbal

notice given to trespassers for criminal enforcement to occur.

Hunters and trappers: Always respect private lands. Ask first before

entering lands not posted as being open to hunting and trapping. You will

improve relationships between landowners and recreationists, and you will

have a more enjoyable time in the field.

• To be legally posted, land must have signs:

—

posted once each year that state “no trespassing” or similar terms

either: 1) along the boundaries

every 1,000 feet or less, or in wooded

areas where boundaries are less clear, at intervals of 500 feet or less; or

2) at the primary corners of each parcel of land and at access roads

and trails at points of entrance to each parcel, except corners only

accessible through agricultural land need not be posted.

—with lettering at least 2 inches high and the signature or the legible

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Tr espass Law

name and telephone number of the owner,

occupant,

lessee, or authorized

manager. An unauthorized

person may not post land with signs

prohibiting outdoor recreation or trespass.

• Notification to stay off private land, authorization to remove a sign

posted to prevent trespass, or legal permission to enter private

land or

to take wild animals

near occupied

buildings or corrals, may only be

given by the owner,

occupant,

or lessee.

[BobT 118]

I think it is also important to note that if the land is not posted buy you are approached by the owner and asked to leave, you must comply. This may hold true for a lesee as well.

I believe the whole point of having the posting rules is to prevent someone from just throwing up postings at will on land they don't have rights to.

For those that own the land, they may think the rules are restricting but they are there to protect us from illegal posters, not to impose on land-owners by making them repost every year.

Bob

[nitroant 0]

I have a Potlatch lease and its year to year, but we keep paying to re-lease each year so the guys who put the signs up may still have a lease on the land. I do not post my lease, have not had to yet..........