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magic_minnow    4
magic_minnow

What if someone caught a, lets say, Largemouth bass out of season and it had swallowed the hook and died. What are you supposed to do with the fish? If someone could clarify this with me it would be great! Me and a few buddies were fishing for crappies and the question came up. We had a big ol debate about it on the lake. Throwing it back wouldn't seem feasible, while keeping it is illegal. What to do??? confused.gif Thanks.

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DinkADunk    0
DinkADunk

throw it back, you can't keep it.

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nofishfisherman    10
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Yep, it has to go back.

Same thing happens if you catch a fish thats in a protected slot. Even if you know it won't live if its to big it has to go back. Sad to see but its the law.

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Deitz Dittrich    4
Deitz Dittrich

Yup-- what they said.

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ozzie    72
ozzie

Throw it back and it will become part of the circle of life.....something will usually use it for a meal!!!

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MuskieJunkie    0
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It might seem wasteful to have to throw it back but if the DNR didnt have this rule people would purposly mess up the fish to be able to keep them.

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magic_minnow    4
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Ahhhhhhhhhhh! Makes a lotta sense. Thanks for clarifying!

I've seen this happen before, but never thought twice about it because the fish was already dead anyway. Thanks for the info! Happy Topwatering!

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fisherman-andy    0
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Let me clarify this subject for you and for others on here who don't know:

If the bass have completely swallowed the hook, I am assuming your using a single hook what you can do is sever the line as close as possible to the hook. Or if it's deeply embedded outside not inside you can use pliers to cut the barb.

Afterwards let the fish go. The hook will simply degrade or rust over time and the fish will be just fine.

Do not try to pull a deeply embedded hook or a completely swallowed hook out as it will damage the fish.

Now you know and good fishing... grin.gif

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Let me clarify this subject for you and for others on here who don't know:

If the bass have completely swallowed the hook, I am assuming your using a single hook what you can do is sever the line as close as possible to the hook. Or if it's deeply embedded outside not inside you can use pliers to cut the barb.

Afterwards let the fish go. The hook will simply degrade or rust over time and the fish will be just fine.

Do not try to pull a deeply embedded hook or a completely swallowed hook out as it will damage the fish.

Now you know and good fishing...
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Take a look at this article. It disputes what has been the traditional view.

Hooks In or Out?

by Ralph Manns

Getting the word out on hook removal. Those of us who try to share the findings of scientific study with non-scientists are often frustrated. It seems very difficult to get the word out. We write about some important discovery, but find anglers, particularly the influential professional bass anglers, either don't read the new information or dismiss the new scientific insights because they conflict with beliefs the anglers already hold.

Professional and TV anglers aren't the only ones to be slow in learning and applying the latest "word" from scientists. Biologists, particularly state fisheries workers are too busy with their own assigned tasks to read all of the literature produced by other scientists. They continue to advise anglers to handle fish using outmoded procedures.

The recommendation that anglers cut the leader close to the hook when bass are "deep-hooked" is a good example. It is hard to find a publication on catch-and-release (C&R) techniques that doesn't pass on this poor advice. Yet, recent research on release techniques strongly suggests there is a better way.

Some years ago, Doug Hannon noted that most magazine articles and state publications recommend leaving hooks in bass and other fish to "rust" out. He claimed that hooks don't rust fast enough, even in salt water; and suggested that the shank of a hook pointing up the throat of a bass acts like a lever or trap door that prevents swallowing. Bass can die of starvation while waiting for normal body processes to eject the hook. Food coming down a bass' throat will bypass a hook-shank, IF the shank lies tightly against the side of the throat where the barb is lodged. However, if the shank protrudes into the throat, food coming down can push the shank across the esophagus, blocking it. Deep-hooked bass may even feel pain as the food rotates the barb and regurgitate the food. Recently, Hannon's observations have been scientifically verified. John Foster, Recreational Fisheries Coordinator for the Maryland Department of Natural Resources, studied striped bass at Chesapeake Bay. His researchers held throat-hooked stripers between 16- and 28-inches long for observation in half-strength seawater so that hooks had ample opportunity to rust away. Size 1/0 and 2/0 stainless steel, bronzed, nickel, tin and tin-cadmium hooks were hooked in the top of each fish's esophagus, with an 18-inch length of line connected to the hook.

After four months, 78 percent of the hooks were still imbedded. Cadmium coated hooks poisoned 20 percent of the fish, and production of these hooks has been stopped. Bronzed hooks were less likely (70%) to be retained than tin-cadmium (80%), nickel (83%), or stainless steel (100%) hooks.

In a second test, the line was clipped at the eye of the hook, as advised by most existing C&R guides. One-hundred percent of the stainless hooks were again retained, while 56 percent of tin, 76 percent of bronze, 84 percent of tin-cadmium, and 88 percent of nickel hooks remained. Fish mortality was greater when all line was trimmed. Foster theorized that the lengths of line hanging from a fish's mouth kept the hook-shank flat against the side of the esophagus and allowed food to pass. Without the line, food could move the hook and close the throat.

Hooks rusted slowly in stages, and the bend and barb became smaller very gradually. Stripers formed scar tissue around imbedded hook points, a typical reaction of body tissue to foreign matter. Foster noted, however, that once the tough scar tissue formed, hooks became more, not less, difficult to remove. Months after fish were hooked, infections sometimes developed around points, causing some deaths.

Based on his research, Foster recommended anglers carefully remove even deeply imbedded hooks. If the hook can not be removed, then it seems better to leave about 18 inches of line attached. Perhaps, someday, these findings will reach C&R anglers, the biologists who are researching C&R and publish C&R guidelines, and TV anglers who teach by their example.

Another good idea is to carry strong wire-cutting pliers. Cur off protruding barbs in the throat and the hook shank falls free easily.

Texas researchers recently compared the mortality of largemouth bass hooked with live bait and artificial lures. Their main finding: "there is no biological justification to regulate use of live bait to catch bass" has been widely publicized. Other findings may help anglers make appropriate adjustments in technique.

In two separate tests, largemouth bass in a private water were landed by TPWD anglers using Carolina-rigged scented plastic worms, crankbaits with multiple treble hooks, and live carp fished with either a Carolina rig or a float. To simulate normal fishing conditions, anglers with different levels of expertise were used.

While fishing with floats, anglers were instructed to delay hooksets until floats went completely under, simulating the way typical amateur anglers fish with unattended rods. Under all other conditions, anglers were to strike immediately upon feeling a hit. Captured bass were immediately examined to identify hook-related injuries. When bass were hooked deep in the throat, the line was cut and hook left in place. (TPWD did not identify whether the cut was made in the traditional way near the hook, or with line remaining outside the fish's mouth.) Bass were then kept in a large holding net over a 72-hour observation period to determine short-term mortality rates. Sixty bass were taken using each method. Tests were made in August, when water was warm and stress and mortality are normally high.

The average mortality under these worst-case conditions was 22 percent. Carolina rigs with scented worms caused the highest mortality, followed by live carp used under floats, crankbaits, and Carolina-rigged carp minnows.

TPWD biologists concluded that the timing of the hookset appeared more critical than the type of bait used in the determination of short-term death rates. The data show bass hooked in the throat had poor survival odds. Evidently, largemouth bass took both lures and live bait fully into their mouths almost immediately. The bass pros' advice to strike without delay is important to reduce fish mortality. Angling techniques that delay hooksets should be avoided.

Carolina-rig and worm combos likely killed more fish because the loose-floating leader prevented immediate detection of some strikes and flavored worms are easily swallowed or held in the back of a bass' mouth. Eighteen percent of bass taken on rigs with worms were throat-hooked.

In contrast, Carolina rigs with live bait and live baits under floats caused less mortality, likely because live preyfish are often held in a bass' mouth for a few seconds, killed, and turned to be swallowed headfirst. This gives anglers a few seconds more to detect hits before baits are ingested. The decision to delay hits when live baits were used with floats and to strike immediately with Carolina-rigged baits likely caused the different mortality rates of these two techniques. Nevertheless, 10 percent of bass hooked on Carolina-rigged live baits were hooked in the esophagus.

It is no surprise that crankbaits are less likely to be swallowed, as their artificial nature is immediately detectable to fish. When fisheries are managed primarily for C&R or trophy bass production, it may be appropriate to ban use of multiple rods to reduce delayed hooksets, or to limit lures to items unlikely to be swallowed. In any case, C&R sportsmen will want to avoid techniques that delay hooksets, like fishing with unattended rods.

The TPWD study showed that bass hooked in the tongue and esophagus had about a 50 percent chance of dying, while bass hooked in the lips mouth, jaw, roof of mouth had 25 percent or less mortality. Interestingly, only 12.5 percent of gill hooked fish died. This finding suggests anglers who kill and eat or mount gill-damaged bass because "they are unlikely to live" are in error.

TPWD also compared the survival of bass when they were bleeding and when leaders were cut and hooks left in the fish. Removing hooks improved bass survival when bass were not bleeding. But there was little difference in mortality when bass were bleeding or hooks were left in the fish.

Anglers practicing C&R rather than to eat bass might note these findings. Fish caught with only superficial wounds are likely to survive release. Small, deeply-hooked and bleeding bass likely should be eaten, rather than released to die later. But lunker bass are so valuable that they should be immediately released, even if they are bleeding or deeply-hooked. Remove the hook if posible. Leave an 18-inch leader if you can not remove the hook.

Ralph Manns

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magic_minnow    4
magic_minnow

Great article Black Bay! & thanks for sharing it with us. It clears up a lot of confusion, and now I can go up to my buddy and be like "HA! I GOTCHU!" He'll probably still outfish me though! shocked.giftongue.gif

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william wallace    0
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So I was out fishing last night and I saw some teenagers throwing out spinner baits and buzz baits (on a very good bass lake). So I go over to them and tell them if I see another bass bait hit the water I will be calling the DNR. The kid driving the boat (a little acehole) tells me they are northern fishing and to get away from them. But they were casting right up on shore from their boat the way someone would bass fish during legal season. I didn't end up calling on them but should I have or was I out of line for yelling at them.

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fisherman-andy    0
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Although the article above is good information, one could do another research of similiar and come out with opposite opinions. Plus how controlled in variable enviroments and how many fish were conducted in this research?

I have caught more than my share of fishes that already have deeply embedded hooks mostly pike & bass and and have observed the fish to do just fine due to that. I even have pulled out some rusted hooks still attached to leader or lines. The fish looked healthy and and hook definately looked rusty and have observed this more than several times during outings because I was able to pull the hook out with little force from some of those fish.

So I still say cut that line or use pliers to cut the barb and give that fish a chance to live...

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So I was out fishing last night and I saw some teenagers throwing out spinner baits and buzz baits (on a very good bass lake). So I go over to them and tell them if I see another bass bait hit the water I will be calling the DNR. The kid driving the boat (a little acehole) tells me they are northern fishing and to get away from them. But they were casting right up on shore from their boat the way someone would bass fish during legal season. I didn't end up calling on them but should I have or was I out of line for yelling at them.


What I like to do Wallace is to go up to them and ask what kind of fish their catching. Another thing is to just watch and wait before making any decision.

If your targeting a certain species and they are out of seasoned fish that are taking your bait your suppose to move along and leave that area alone. Take for instance your targeting Crappies but the bass in the area keeps hitting your line. A CO can and may ticket you for fishing because the bass are likely holding up or spawning in the same areas.

Another scenario would be that since you are targeting an in season fish unspecifically in areas and are catching bass one can make the opposite arguement that as long as your not keeping them there is nothing the CO can do and some CO's will tell you just that.

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So I was out fishing last night and I saw some teenagers throwing out spinner baits and buzz baits (on a very good bass lake). So I go over to them and tell them if I see another bass bait hit the water I will be calling the DNR. The kid driving the boat (a little acehole) tells me they are northern fishing and to get away from them. But they were casting right up on shore from their boat the way someone would bass fish during legal season. I didn't end up calling on them but should I have or was I out of line for yelling at them.


Spinner baits and buzz baits are great pike lures. And pike can be up in the warm shallow water this time of year feeding on sunnies. I don't think there is much you can do with this one. They were most likely telling you the truth and even if they weren't you don't have any evidence of it.

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So I still say cut that line or use pliers to cut the barb and give that fish a chance to live...


Fisherman Andy it is amazing that even after a study has been done you still arent willing to admit that maybe your method is not the best. I guess I would like to see the research on your method of removing hooks. I will stick with what keeps the fish alive.

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So I still say cut that line or use pliers to cut the barb and give that fish a chance to live...


Fisherman Andy it is amazing that even after a study has been done you still arent willing to admit that maybe your method is not the best. I guess I would like to see the research on your method of removing hooks. I will stick with what keeps the fish alive.


That is an independent study. Any independent study can have various outcome. A study can show to prove anything. I want long term information from multiple sources to even consider the outcome. One should know and understand just because a single source says something and back it up with some data doesnt mean it's solid data.

Best method? There is no best method, only recommended ones. But what method are we talking about? Their method is simply the same or similiar method to what im talking about with emphasis that leaving a leader may help but not guarantee better survival. How would you like it if someone left an 8 ~ 12 inch leader in your mouth? It is also possible that the leader can make feeding more difficult or even block the moment of the feeding process not allowing the fish to intake the prey. Heck it could get tangle up in the fish mouth for all we know.

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lotsofish    1
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As stated, spinner baits and buzz baits are great for pike and the pike are up shallow in the weeds right now. Bass and pike can live in the same areas and do go after the same baits. When I have been out fishing pike this past week, I have used the same methods and have done fairly well.

Regarding the original topic. Yep, it's unfortunate, but they gotta go back. A meal for a turtle, muskrat or bigger fish... I have heard that about the hooks before. It's an interesting article posted, but I have to agree with fisherman-andy. It would be nice to see a study done on some Minnesota fish (gills, lmb/smb, walleye, pike, etc). I think they only used Striped Bass. Either way, there isn't a "perfect" way to do it. There ought to be a tool that can be used to cut the hook off, as much as can be accessed, so the only part left in the fish is just half of a hook or less. Like a wire cutter, but longer like a needle nose.

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MOBY RICHARD*    0
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The Wisconsin DNR did a study on gut hooked Muskies, the line was cut, and they were immediately released into their ponds.

Mortality was 0 after 24 hours, 22% after 50 days, 83% total after 1 year! shocked.gif

Now that is for gut hooked fish, single hook, long line, huge, tough, fish. So I can see a 15 to 25% rate with treble hooked, rough handled, fish.

Most of the experts figure a minimum of 10% of all fish returned to the water will die as a result of the C&R process. And when people sit on a spot and catch hundreds in a day, some of them more than once, or maybe taking pictures, holding them by gills, or big ones by the stomach, or keeping them out of water for more than 30 seconds... 15-20%. frown.gif

Infection is the unforseen killer, as well as hinderance to the fish's ability to consume mass quantities of animal protein digestables.

Many of these fish do swim away looking like they are just fine, and they may be...but for how long after we leave? blush.gif

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Slyster    0
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Still a lot better than the 'good old' days when there was 100% mortality!

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Glenn_S    0
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There is actually a real easy way to remove a hook that is even pinning the gullet shut. I carry a heavy side-cutter, and if I get a deep hooked fish, I just cut the hook in half, and pull it out going the same way it was hooked. With no more shank, it pulls right out with only the small hole from where it went in.

I have had hooks laying in old tackle boxes for ever two years that had water in them, and the hooks are not rusted away. With todays composite metals, the likelyhood of a hook rusting away in the lifetime of that fish is slim to none.

IMHO, I think many anglers just cut the line out of convenience or lazyness, because they don't want to take the time to properly remove a deep hook.

Glenn

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There is actually a real easy way to remove a hook that is even pinning the gullet shut. I carry a heavy side-cutter, and if I get a deep hooked fish, I just cut the hook in half, and pull it out going the same way it was hooked. With no more shank, it pulls right out with only the small hole from where it went in.

I have had hooks laying in old tackle boxes for ever two years that had water in them, and the hooks are not rusted away. With todays composite metals, the likelyhood of a hook rusting away in the lifetime of that fish is slim to none.

IMHO, I think many anglers just cut the line out of convenience or lazyness, because they don't want to take the time to properly remove a deep hook.

Glenn


Kudos to you man. Way to go. Do all you can and give that fish a fighting chance to live.

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      Youth, ages 10-15, can participate in a special deer season that runs from Thursday, Oct. 19, to Sunday, Oct. 22, in 28 permit areas of southeastern and northwestern Minnesota, including in the Twin Cities metro permit area 601, according to the Department of Natural Resources.  “Youth deer season is about putting the youth’s hunting experience first,” said Mike Kurre, DNR mentoring program coordinator. “Many students get a couple days off school for teacher workshops during the youth season so the long break is a great time to plan a hunt that can teach valuable skills and help grow a youth’s interest in the outdoors.” Deer permit areas open to the hunt are: 101, 105, 111, 114, 201, 203, 208, 209, 256, 257, 260, 263, 264, 267, 268, 338, 339, 341, 342, 343, 344 (including Whitewater Game Refuge), 345, 346, 347, 348, 349, 601 and 603. Blaze orange or blaze pink requirements apply to all hunters, trappers and adult mentors in areas open for the youth deer season. Public land is open, and private land is open if the hunters have landowner permission. Youth ages 10 through 15 must obtain a deer license. Youth ages 12 to 15 need to have completed firearms safety or, if not, can obtain an apprentice hunter validation. During the youth season, a parent, guardian or mentor age 18 or older must accompany the youth and only need a license if the youth is taking advantage of the apprentice validation option. Party hunting on a youth license is not allowed – so youth must take and tag their own deer. The bag limit for the youth season is one deer only. Youth may use their regular license or a bonus permit if they take an antlerless deer, regardless of the management designation. Bucks must be tagged with the youth’s regular license. Participation does not affect eligibility for the regular deer season; however, the harvested deer counts against the youth’s annual statewide bag limit and the bag limit for the deer permit area. If hunting in permit areas 346, 348, 349 and 603, the early antlerless only season is in effect from Oct. 19 to Oct. 22, so adults and youth can hunt at the same time in these areas; however, if a youth harvests a deer and wishes to continue hunting during the early antlerless only season they must purchase an early antlerless permit. Youth hunters in permit area 603 must have their deer tested for chronic wasting disease and cannot move the carcass out of the permit area until a negative test result is received. Properly cut-up deer and boned-out meat can be taken out of the area provided no brain matter or spinal column material is attached. Information on proper steps to follow after harvesting a deer in permit area 603 is available on the DNR website at mndnr.gov/cwd/603. CWD testing during the youth season is not required in the other permit areas where mandatory testing will occur on Nov. 4 and 5 during the first two days of the firearms deer season. More information about the youth season can be found on page 34 of the 2017 Minnesota Hunting and Trapping Regulations Handbook and online at mndnr.gov/regulations/hunting. Discuss below - to view set the hook here.
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      With 59 state forests that cover 4.2 million acres, Minnesota state forests are a great place to view fall color, according to the Department of Natural Resources. “Forests with a mix of deciduous and coniferous trees offer a wonderful fall color experience,” said Jennifer Teegarden, DNR forestry outreach specialist. “The dark green needles of conifers accent the yellow, orange and red leaves of deciduous trees.” Here are a few routes to consider: Late September Bear Island State Forest loop. From Ely head south on state Highway 1 toward Isabella for about 20 miles. Take a right on New Tomahawk Road toward Babbitt for about 17 miles. Turn right on County Road 21 for 15 miles back to Ely. Kabetogama State Forest loop. From Orr head north on state Highway 53 for 4 miles. Turn right on County Road 180 to head east for 16 miles. Turn right on Forest Road 203 to head east for about 4.5 miles. Turn right on Vermillion Falls road to head east for 8 miles. Turn right on County Road 24/23 and follow to Orr for 26 miles. White Earth State Forest starting at Roy Lake head east on state Highway 200 for 1.5 miles. Turn right on Strawberry Mountain Road to head south for 5 miles. At Norris Trail turn left to head east for 3 miles. Turn left on Height of Land Road to head north back to Highway 200. For a longer loop follow Strawberry Mountain road to state Highway 113. Turn right on state Highway 113 to head east. Turn left on Height of Land Road to head north back to Highway 200. Early to mid-October St. Croix and Nemadji state forests loop. From I35, take Hinckley exit #183 and head east on State Highway 48 for 19 miles. Turn left to head north on County Road 24 and follow as it curves east and north for 7 miles. Turn right on County Road 25 to head east for 9.5 miles. At Markville, head north on County Road 31 for about 12 miles. Turn left on Park Forest Road/Park Truck Trail to head west for 13 miles. Turn right on County Road 171 to head north for 2 miles. Turn left onto County Road 154/Kerrick Road to head west for 5 miles. At Kerrick, head south on state Highway 23 for 18 miles to I35 exit #195. Richard J. Dorer Memorial Hardwood State Forest loop. From downtown Red Wing head south on Highway 61 for 10.5 miles. At Frontenac take a right onto Country 2 to head east for 9 miles. Take a right onto County Road 3 to head east for 4 miles. Take a right onto state Highway 58 to head north for 1.5 miles. Take a left onto Hay Creek Trail to head north for about 4.5 miles. Hey Creek Trail turns into Twin Bluff Road at Pioneer Trail. Continue on Twin Bluff Road for 1.5 miles and turn left on East Ave to return to downtown Red Wing. Visit www.dnr.state.mn.us/state_forests/fall-colors.html for additional scenic routes and state forest information. Entrance into a state forest is free. State forest campsites are available on a first-come, first-served basis for $14 a night. Visit the Minnesota state parks and trails Fall Color Finder at www.mndnr.gov/fall_colors to find areas in Minnesota with peak fall color. The Fall Color Finder is updated every Thursday through the end of October. Discuss below - to view set the hook here.
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      Event to take place at Marshall’s Southwest State University Gov. Mark Dayton invites the public to join him at a community banquet, Friday, Oct. 13, from 6-8:30 p.m. at Southwest Minnesota State University, to celebrate the Minnesota Governor’s Pheasant Hunting Opener in Marshall.  “I am proud of Minnesota’s great hunting traditions, and I have enjoyed pheasant hunting here for over sixty years,” said Dayton. “For the past seven years, we have held Governor’s Pheasant Hunting Openers, which have been very popular. I thank our wonderful hosts in the Marshall area for all of their hard work to make this year’s Opener such an outstanding event. I invite all Minnesotans to join us for this special Minnesota tradition.” Tickets to the banquet are $30 each and available until sold out, at the Marshall Area Chamber of Commerce, or by calling 507-532-4484. The banquet features a social hour, dinner and program which will include Dayton, Minnesota Department of Natural Resources Commissioner Tom Landwehr, Explore Minnesota Director John Edman and local presenters. The banquet is part of the weekend festivities, hosted by Marshall, that showcase the many hunting, recreational and travel opportunities the Marshall area has to offer visitors. This is the seventh annual Governor’s Pheasant Hunting Opener. Marshall previously hosted the second Governor’s Pheasant Hunting Opener in 2012, after Montevideo hosted the inaugural event in 2011. Marshall has a population of 13,680 and is located 150 miles southwest of the Twin Cities at the junctions of U.S. Highway 59 and state highways 19, 23 and 68. Marshall and southwest Minnesota actively promote hunting and outdoor recreation. Within 25 miles of Marshall, there are 37 Walk-In Access areas totaling just under 3,000 acres, 20 waterfowl production areas totaling approximately 3,779 acres and 132 WMAs totaling 24,407 acres. In Lyon County alone, there are 47 WMAs totaling 11,184 acres. All are open to public hunting. Explore Minnesota and the DNR are assisting the Marshall Area Chamber of Commerce in planning the event. More information and updates on the Governor’s Pheasant Hunting Opener can be found at exploreminnesota.com/mngpho. Discuss below - to view set the hook here.
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      Results from the Minnesota Department of Natural Resources’ 2016-1017 wolf population survey suggest Minnesota’s wolf population has increased 25 percent since the 2015-2016 survey.  After remaining stable during the past four years, the survey estimates that within Minnesota’s wolf range there were approximately 500 wolf packs and 2,856 wolves. The survey’s margin of error is about plus or minus 500 wolves. The 2015-2016 survey estimated the number of packs at 439 and the wolf population at 2,278.   Minnesota’s wolf population remains well above the state’s minimum goal of at least 1,600 wolves and also above the federal recovery goal of 1,251 to 1,400. The DNR has consistently managed wolf populations at levels that exceed both state and federal minimums. Survey results suggest packs were slightly larger (4.8 vs. 4.4) and used smaller territories (54 square miles vs. 62 square miles) than the previous winter. Although neither individually represented a significant change from recent years, collectively they explain the increase in the population estimate and are consistent with a continuing increase in deer numbers observed in many parts of wolf range. From spring 2015 to spring 2016, deer density within the wolf range is estimated to have increased 22 percent. “From approximately 2005 to 2014, a decline in prey appears to have translated into larger wolf pack territories, fewer or smaller packs and a reduced wolf population, said John Erb, the DNR’s wolf research scientist. “Now, the reverse appears to be happening.” Although other factors such as pack competition, disease and human-caused mortality can influence wolf population dynamics, prey density typically determines the carrying capacity for wolves. “Changes in estimated wolf abundance generally have tracked those of deer over the past 5 years,” Erb said. The wolf population survey is conducted in mid-winter near the low point of the annual population cycle. A winter survey makes counting pack size from a plane more accurate because the forest canopy is reduced and snow makes it easier to spot darker shapes on the ground. Pack counts during winter are assumed to represent minimum estimates given the challenges with detecting all members of a pack together at the same time. A winter count also excludes the population spike that occurs each spring when the number of wolves typically doubles immediately following the birth of pups, many of which do not survive to the following winter. The DNR’s goal for wolf management, as outlined in the state’s wolf management plan, is to ensure the long-term survival of wolves in Minnesota while addressing wolf-human conflicts. Minnesota currently has no direct management responsibility for wolves now because a federal district court ruling in December 2014 returned Minnesota’s wolves to the federal list of threatened species. The U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service manages all animals on that list. Visit the DNR website at mndnr.gov/wolves to find the full population survey report, reported wolf mortalities and an overview of wolves in Minnesota. Discuss below - to view set the hook here.
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