Guests - If You want access to member only forums on FM. You will gain access only when you Sign-in or Sign-Up on Fishing Minnesota.

It's easy - LOOK UPPER right menu.

Sign in to follow this  
Followers 0
AaronM

Opener = Motor Troubles

27 posts in this topic

I have a 115 Evinrude (1996 I Believe), and when I put the boat in today, the motor had some troubles. When I'd start to plane out, the boat would start lurching and the RPM's would rise and fall from about 3,200 to 2,000 before the boat slowed down and quit. After that happened, the bulb would be a little flat and I'd need to pump it before starting out again. What would be the problem here??? It's a great day out and I can't believe I'm stuck inside. Thanks for any help!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Could be simple like bad gas or build up in the carbs or anything little like that.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Sounds like you have a bad fuel pump. frown.gif

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I think that may be it. It runs fine when someone sits in back and constantly pumps the bulb. Is a new pump expensive or hard for a mechanic to replace?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

You might be sucking air somewhere! Check your fuel line!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

A new VRO pump will run about $265.00 plus installation. there is however a rebuild kit for just the gas side, much less. Whether or not you could replace it depends on your mechanical abilities.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

K.I.S.S. it and replace your fuel hose first.

Getting carried away over a bad check valve in your primer bulb could be a real bummer.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Thanks for the replies guys. I've never done it before, is it a tough thing to do? I'll try get it replaced tomorrow! Thanks again!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The guy's telling you to check your fuel hose for air leaks first are giving you good advice. It doesn't take much of an air leak to cause the kind of problems you are having. Pay particular attention to where your line hooks into your motor. Then to kick it up a notch, BAM! Add some SeaFoam to your gas tank! Or you can call me since I don't live very far away from you. You've got my number, eh? 1DIRTBALL wink.gif

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Quote:

K.I.S.S. it and replace your fuel hose first.

Getting carried away over a bad check valve in your primer bulb could be a real bummer


Very good advice. I would think that if your fuel pump was bad you wouldn't see the bulb go soft. Also make sure that the bulb is either level or slanted down so the check valve closes properly(found that out the hard way).

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I tried the hose and bulb-both good. Brought it in to the mechanic yesterday so hopefully I can get it back by Wednesday. Thanks again for the help, I'll post again when the problem is found.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Sounds like a bad bulb. Had that happen to me last year. Same issue except I couldn't get it above idle.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Just got the boat back yesterday, it turns out that it had over 1/2 cup of sand inside the inner filter that wouldn't let gas get through. The pump couldn't pull the gas, and eventually tore some of the inner components. Over a $500 fix, how does a guy get sand in his gas?? He took a sample and the gas still has some sand particles in it. Another filter was installed so hopefully that can help. I'm the second owner, and I can't imagine I ever would let that happen. Has anyone ever seen this before?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Do you have any neighbors who think that your boat is to loud?? Pardon the pun but it sounds a little fishy to me.

frown.gif

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I agree. Inspect, drain and clean your tank. That new filter will only filter so much...my guess is you have some prankster tampering (adding sand) to your gas tank. Is the boat stored outside?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

That's what I was thinking, my boat is kept on a river outside of my house (About 50 yards away, at night or near dark situations it's tough to see) with a handy little sandy beach right next to it. It would be so easy for a couple of kids in a canoe to be paddling by and do something like that. It makes me burn to just think about it..If my gas tank is full with new gas, should I still drain it? The guy that worked on it just said to watch the filters and change as needed. Thanks again..

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Yup....I bet there will be a match if you compare the two sand samples.

Tough call on the tank. Is this an internal tank? (I assume yes with a the size motor you have). External tank would be easier obviously.

I would check or change filters frequently to see how fast they build up with sand. That would give you a better idea of how much is left in the tank. Draining and cleaning a full tank is a pain.

Best of luck and hope you catch them varmints someday if this was the case!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

It is an internal tank, so it would be a little more difficult. I'll take it out in the next day or so and be able to tell how much is left in there. Is there any way to make a boat more secure? I'd hate to have this happen again: is there a gas cap that needs a key? The electronics and rods are definitely going to be locked up from now on. I'm not 100% that someone put the sand in there, but I don't want them to give them another opportunity..

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Any ideas?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

They do have locking gas caps and I saw one for $29.95 at West Marine as an example. Your local boat shop should have one.

I would definitely lock stuff up or bring it in with you...Heard of some thefts in the Baudette area along the river.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

So you know for sure drain as much of the tank as possible.Then flush the tank with water as you vaccum it out with a wet vac.Hope this helps some.Make sure you remove All sand,dirt and water b4 filling the tank again.Maybe some sort of "cheapie"silent car alarm would be a wise investment in your future?c63

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I wouldnt use a wet dry vac. Do you know for sure ALL the fumes are gone, and how will you know they are gone? I personally know someone who was burned from doing the exact same thing. He thought he had all the fumes purged from the tank! KERBLAM!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Quote:

KERBLAM!


I thought it was KABOOM ! Or maybe KARABADAZOOM !!!

Sorry Boatfixer I couldn't resist wink.gif

Anyway, your advise is EXCELLENT, don't use a vacuum cleaner to dry tank, a spark....... and you might not be there to reply to this post.

KUBALABABAMMM !!! BADABADABAM !!! ZZAPUNKTADOOM !!!!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

No problem Valv, Just trying to make a point if thats what it takes. The sound, If he even hears it, would depend on the mixture. Just trying to save his life grin.gif

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Note the time, I had one too many Leinenkugels..... blush.gif

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.
Sign in to follow this  
Followers 0



  • Posts

    • JBMasterAngler
      I never got a chance to get down to Superior in the morning to fish from shore, as it was always a little too rough every day. I did get up early enough to make it to the devil track river, finally for the first time. Was nice to check it out, although my time was short. Caught 1 little rainbow, and lost 6!    Also checked out the Poplar River for the first time, off the caribou trail, at the campgrounds. Only fished it for a little bit, but caught 2 brook trout, one of which was about 12 inches. River was surprisingly deep, was wading in waste deep water.    My dad and my son are still up there. But they haven't really been able to fish due to the rain on Saturday and Sunday. If it was nice today, they were going to go back to Greenwood Lake. Otherwise, if the weather was bad, they were coming home a day early. Haven't heard from them yet, so hopefully they were able to get out.
    • portageguy
      Yes just north of Cook.  They are open 7 days 8:00-4:30. Y-store is open 5am - midnight.  
    • curt quesnell
      Wind was howling when we left the dock this morning and I was pretty shook up about it. A nice steady bite with decent fish made the day a real pleasure.   Good news going into the big weekend, the fish are biting.
    • Fish Head
      Is it the LaCroix Ranger Station where you pick up the permits now?
    • ozzie
      not something I consider when eating as I don't eat fish weekly.  I feed them to my kids and my wife ate it while pregnant.  Not sure if there really is a concern or not but the basic guidelines are out there more for kids and pregnant women.  Unless you are eating fish daily or every other day then I don't think you need to worry a whole bunch.  Heck if you die because of mercury poisoning from eating too many fish, well at least you had one hell of a time before you died! HAHAHA   A few years back a local lake close to the metro started producing a lot of crappies and people drove all over to fish.  A lot of fish were taken and eaten.  The lake had been traditionally known as a dumping pond for farm runoff and other things like that...I ate a limit or 2 from said lake and never had issues with anything and the fish tasted like they should.  Point being that unless they say "DON'T EAT FISH FROM THIS LAKE" just follow the state guidelines for your kids and prego wife but other than that enjoy a meal or 2 a week if you are lucky to catch enough!!  Good Luck- Ozzie
    • delcecchi
      I think day use motor or camping requires a permit, not self service. 
    • blue_healer_guy
      speaking of a terova with spot lock, where can I buy one, cant find anybody that has them and what do they cost.
    • portageguy
      Day trip canoe only can fill out and use permit at portage. October 1 - April 30 permits at portage cover all trips. We have all been driving to Cook for permits so Y-store would be great. 
    • Rick
      Minnesota state parks have made it easy—and free —to experience the fun of fishing.  “We’ve eliminated some of the barriers that were keeping today’s busy families from getting out fishing,” said Erika Rivers, director of Minnesota state parks and trails. “Now, you and your family can try your hand at fishing – at no cost – before investing in equipment or purchasing a fishing license.” People are able to fish from shore without a license in most state parks on a lake or river that doesn’t require a trout stamp. Other rules and regulations still apply, such as the number and size of fish that the person can keep. Details, including a map showing where to find the free fishing opportunities, can be found online. Free fishing kits, which include a rod and tackle, are loaned out on a first-come, first-served basis at many state parks, thanks to funding from the DNR’s MinnAqua program. “These fishing kits make it easy for families,” said Jeff Ledermann, education and skills leader for DNR’s fish and wildlife outreach section. “The many fishing opportunities state parks offer are a great way for families to have fun, learn together and build a tradition that connects them to the outdoors.” Beginners and those who haven’t fished in awhile can brush up on their fishing skills at one of many I Can Fish! programs this summer. These hands-on learning opportunities ($5 for adults and free for children under age 12) cover fish identification, casting, knot-tying and more. Fishing gear is provided for use during the programs, and fishing licenses are not required. Experienced anglers will demonstrate skills and then give participants time to practice. Participants will also get a small tackle box to take home with them. For a complete schedule of I Can Fish! programs and information on how to register, visit www.mndnr.gov. For more information, contact the DNR Information Center at info.dnr@state.mn.us, 651-296-6157 or 888-646-6367 (8 a.m.-8 p.m. Monday through Friday, 9 a.m.-1 p.m. Saturday). Discuss below - to view set the hook here.
    • overdalimit
      getting thicker now. no big slicks on lake yet probably another week and the "carcass trails" will start showing up.