Guests - If You want access to member only forums on FM. You will gain access only when you Sign-in or Sign-Up on Fishing Minnesota.

It's easy - LOOK UPPER right menu.

  • Announcements

    • Rick

      Members Only Fluid Forum View   08/08/2017

      Fluid forum view allows members only to get right to the meat of this community; the topics. You can toggle between your preferred forum view just below to the left on the main forum entrance. You will see three icons. Try them out and see what you prefer.   Fluid view allows you, if you are a signed up member, to see the newest topic posts in either all forums (select none or all) or in just your favorite forums (select the ones you want to see when you come to Fishing Minnesota). It keeps and in real time with respect to Topic posts and lets YOU SELECT YOUR FAVORITE FORUMS. It can make things fun and easy. This is especially true for less experienced visitors raised on social media. If you, as a members want more specific topics, you can even select a single forum to view. Let us take a look at fluid view in action. We will then break it down and explain how it works in more detail.   The video shows the topic list and the forum filter box. As you can see, it is easy to change the topic list by changing the selected forums. This view replaces the traditional list of categories and forums.   Of course, members only can change the view to better suit your way of browsing.   You will notice a “grid” option. We have moved the grid forum theme setting into the main forum settings. This makes it an option for members only to choose. This screenshot also shows the removal of the forum breadcrumb in fluid view mode. Fluid view remembers your last forum selection so you don’t lose your place when you go back to the listing. The benefit of this feature is easy to see. It removes a potential barrier of entry for members only. It puts the spotlight on topics themselves, and not the hierarchical forum structure. You as a member will enjoy viewing many forums at once and switching between them without leaving the page. We hope that fluid view, the new functionality is an asset that you enjoy .
Sign in to follow this  
enduro67

Kab-Namakan Walleye/Smallmouth Tackle tips for newbie

Recommended Posts

enduro67

I am going on a trip to fish Namakan and Kabetogama for my first time mid July this year. I have never fished for Walleye or Smallmouth either one but have fished for crappie and largemouth for 20+ years. I have read alot about walleye and smallmouth tactics so I have a good idea of what I'm getting into but need some advice on specific presentations.

I am going with a hunting friend who has fished there many times so he assures me that he can find some fish. My friend fishes 100% of the time with a plain nightcrawler on a splitshot rig. He has good success with this for both smallmouth and walleyes. I am not much of a live bait fisherman so I am going to take a ample supply of artificials to try but will fall back on the live bait if necessary.

So my specific presentations that I plan to try are:

Smallmouth bass: small spider jigs, tube baits in crawfish colors. 4-inch power worms in minnow colors. Small crankbaits in crawfish colors, jerkbaits.

Walleyes:

Vertical jigging with leadheads tipped with crawlers and leaches and minnows....Any advice on Jig colors????

Pulling spinners tipped with crawlers and minnows....any advice on spinner and bead/hook colors?????

As far as bottom bouncers go do you have better luck with colored ones or the plain lead?

Any suggestions on what fishing line to use....I had planned on the new berkley clear fireline (8lb) and fluorocarbon leader on my jig rods.

Again I am new to Walleye fishing so I will have to buy new all the tackle that I take for the trip...so I am trying to keep it basic with just a few colors of select baits that are known fish producers for these lakes.

Any tips would be appreciated or if theres someone out there that I could call and talk to that would be great as well.

I realize that alot of this may already be covered on this forum and I intend to explore it further as well. Right now I've got the fishing bug bad and keep looking at tackle for this trip but am overwhelmed with the endless selection of colors and sizes.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
overdalimit

GUTS would you have time to help this gentleman?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
guts

Enduro, all I can say is wow!I have to side with your hunting friend, that time of year, mid July slip sinker rigs wtih crawlers, back trolling is the old reliable for eyes.

I wouldn't really suggest lures too much that time of year for walleyes, except for maybe late evening before dark, something like a shadrap at say 12-16'. Vertical jigging with leadhead jigs is totally dependent with your being right on top of a school, and that can be difficult to find mid July. I use spinners with red hook and small beads often in the summer behind a slip sinker rig, rather than a plain snell. Speed control a must with a spinner rig if you want it to attract walleye.

I don't personally use bottom bouncers, however if you get a good feel, and keep from getting snagged consistently you may do okay.

Fireline is fine, as would be power pro, tie direct, or use a mono leader for more sensitivity. This year lake levels and water temps may dictate some fishing methods for success. Before you load up on tackle, watch posts in July, some good guides put info on here.

Typically smallies would hit crayfish lures, bagley and rebel have some deadly baits, Heddon torpedoes, mepps spinners, salmo hornets and rapala fat raps, all would work well, lots of pros use plastics if fishing strictly for smallies.

Once again, slip sinker rigs with a 5-6 foot snell slowly trolled on reef edges would be the standby method, your hunting friend may be of a great asset to you.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Wade Joseph

Whats the best for eyes in the end of may?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
guts

WJ, the end of May can have lots of variables, most important will be water temps. Cool water, favors minnows and or leeches, that being said, if the water is warmer, lots of algae bloom, the bite might favor crawlers.

In that time frame, I start using lindy rigs, and back troll so I cover more area, if you find a good hole, you could sit there and try vertical jigging with that same set up keeping the bait up off the bottom.

Artificals may to you well in the evenings using them in a 12-15' range.

guts

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
enduro67

GUTs thanks for your input. I guess I was putting too much thought into it.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Wade Joseph

Thanks Guts

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
enduro67

Ok I'm trying to keep it simple so let me rephrase my question.

If you had to choose just 3 or 4 colors of jigs and spinners for summer walleye fishing on the Ash River end of Namakan...what would be your top picks.

The reason I ask is I'm going to Cabelas in St Louis next weekend and would like to pick up a small supply of stuff to try. I realize a simple crawler rig may be all I need but I still will want to try some lures as well.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
overdalimit

Enduro67,

I like to fish Nam with a gold, black and red ball jig and a minnow if I am jigging. When you see the color of the fish you will understand why that combination. When I fish Kab I like blue and white or red white and blue ball jigs. I like to use 3/8 to 1/2 oz jigs to get em down there. My friend Lavern taught me this and he is the oldest guide on the lake at 92. I would also get some spinner rigs with blue and white blades and some hammered silver spinner blades for Kab and hammered gold and chartruse fading to yellow for Nam. (This I learned on my own) I like to use a big egg sinker of about 3/8 to 1/2 oz to put it on the bottom. I am sure others will have different suggestions that work as well or better as these. There is a place right up at Kab that has all of the items that I described. It is right across from the Kab walleye statue. You can't miss it. Just ask for Phil. He will hook you up with what you need and he can give you some valuable info on where they are biting and on what when you are buying your bait and those "must have" tackle items. Good luck and have fun!

overdalimit

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
guts

Enduro, do as you want with lures, jigs rigs and ect. Any of your typical bass baits will probably work, they are pretty generic, your choice.

Walleyes are finicky, most of the spinner rigs, or snells are regionally made for specific areas or lakes, example, a 60" snell single bead, swivel and a number 4 or 6 red hook, use a drop sinker, egg sinker, roach rig, lindy rig, depends how deep the fish are and how fast you will be moving, or a slip sinker rig with live bait if they are near the weeds. If its a light bite but you want a spinner, a #2 spinner blade with swivel so your line doesn't twist, with bead and a #6 red or chartruse hook may be best. If you can find that at Cabelas good luck. Spinner colors depend often on water clarity, as do jigs. A favorite jig in these parts is a three color red, white and blue jig, good luck finding that at cabelas. guts

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
seaner

I have been goin up there for about 15 years now. the best luck I have is with a blue floating jighead, splitshot 2 ft up, leech. simple yey EXTREMELY effective!!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
enduro67

Thanks for all the information. There is one lake that has some walleye about an hour from home that I plan to hit in June to try some presentations on. I will keep an eye on the forum as my trip draws near but that will at least get me started.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
overdalimit

Funny thing about walleye. Every lake is different. Heck even Nam and Kab which flow together require different stratgies and tackle.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.
Sign in to follow this  



  • Posts

    • Wanderer
      The 200 foot rule gets me a little but it has to be defined somehow what is occupied and what isn’t.   So for a wheelhouse we get to buy tabs to have on the road and a sticker to have it on the ice and go away for a little while.  Seems pretty close to double taxation since any LE can find out who the owner is from the current plate. Plus the spear shack that I might want to keep up over the weekend.  2 tags plus license. Combination sports license 2 trout stamps Waterfowl stamps Pheasant stamp  Turkey license (stamp now included) Deer license for all seasons   The bucket is getting heavy with all the drops in it.  
    • ib_jigged
      Really no different than using your boat.  $14,000 fish house and $14.33/year is going to kill you?? What gets me is at the lake we are at in the summer, mostly out of state people in the campground and all of their boats, never leave that lake and they are all licensed out of state and not in MN.  That is a chunk of money the state does not see.
    • Fishing Frenzy
      Great news to hear! Hopefully it will make enough tonight and hope it isn't going to get as warm as they say. Fingers crossed!
    • CLPDB
      Was hoping to come up with a 1/2 ton and a 16ft wheel house Dec. 1st.  Any thoughts if the ice will be think enough to go out of Hillmens?
    • timjones
      Took a drive around Lake Osakis earlier. It appears the cold and calm winds we had last night made a lot of ice. From what I could tell it appeared the lake was locked up except there was a small open area in Manthey's Bay that had a couple trumpeter swans swimming around and another small area in front of Holiday Resort that had some ducks swimming around. The rest was all ice, thin ice. Don't know if it will hold up over the next 5 days. High of 38 tomorrow, 46 and showers on Friday with high winds, 36 Saturday, 44 Sunday and 44 Monday. The lows over night aren't going to dip very low. If it was a few inches thick I wouldn't be to concerned, but as thin as it is, could be bad.
    • PRO-V
      Not by itself it won't but they raised the price on licenses for everything. Once you add it all up I'll bet you never got that big of a raise at your job. I paid for an ATV license since they first came out and we didn't get squat for it for over 20 years. What a joke, not to mention debacles like Mille Lacs Lake management. AAARRGGHHH!!  I gotta quit now before I pop a vein.
    • JerkinLips
      Thanks for the updates.  Think I will play it safe and wait until Thursday, November 30 to go out from McKinley Park.
    • Finnish Flash
      7" of good clear ice in the couple holes I drilled in Pike Bay this morning.   
    • cookie129
      not sure why its not showing I'm posting? Anyway walking out on the south shore gets you in deeper water quicker. Yes they do bite on red lake during the dark. I hardly ever go on the lake early ice unless Buddy Hillmen needs my help. Once I drive on the lake with blue thunder I will be on her just about everyday un  tell mid march if mother nature cooperates.
    • Roscoe010
      Can anyone recommend a place nearby the Metro Area where a person can take their air rifle to sight in the scope since you cannot shoot them in city limits.  Plus, probably not smart to just pull up to a random field to sight in, either.  Thanks!!