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Mapman    0
Mapman

Hey everybody!

What kind of demand would there be for lake maps for the Otter Tail county area? I have recently been doing my own surveys of a few lakes in the county. These maps reveal unknown structure that could be useful to a fisherman.

Paper maps and even cards made to read on your Lowrance and Garmin Gps units will be available. I'm going to be doing many smaller lakes that the "big guys" won't ever survey.

Maybe the DNR maps aren't good enough for you. I would like to know how much you would pay for such useful information.

Please feel free to write in your thoughts. Any input would be appreciated. Thank you.

Mapman

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slammer    45
slammer

If they were good electronic maps with features that no one currently has, you could almost name your price. I would probably pay up to $50-$60 for a Otter Tail county "chip" that would work on my Lowrance graph. I'm done with paper maps since most everything is electronic now.

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101winchester    1
101winchester

Smaller lakes are very vunerable to fishing pressure and this is going to put undue pressure on these fish. For someone to come in and map an entire small lake and all of its characteristics for profit doesn't seem ethical. Alot of the smaller lakes here in Western Minnesota don't have very many "features" and the fish key on them. These lakes are not big, I don't know the process, but scanning them, downloading the information and then putting it on a "chip" wouldn't be that long given their size. I know there will be a portion of people out there that say its public waters and anything additional is their "right". But that is their opinion and they are entitiled to it as am I. At what point as fishermen do we say enough is enough, do you want a lure that is downloaded from a computer to run a specific depth based on water clairty, fish species, size, time of year?

Leave the smaller lakes alone. Fishing is supposed to be a relaxing endevor, let's enjoy the chase, sometimes we win, sometimes we lose, but in the long run, the man who fishes always wins.... cool.gif

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shae1986    0
shae1986

It matters what lakes you are doing, that is the key. There are some lakes that I would love to see quality maps on and would pay decent money for them, if they are accuarate, that is the key, its not that they are there, its that they are correct and cover the entire lake, where there might be hazords and everything. If you did one with OT county i and it was accurate and covered some lakes i wanted i would pay $90 for the chip. Maybe it would be just me, but people are paying that for Devils Lake and LOW why not our area lakes. Theres my .02 cents.

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Mapman    0
Mapman

What kind of features would you think would be needed?

I have customized software and sonar that could be modified to add these features. My original plan was to just provide lake data as that is my main goal.

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Mapman    0
Mapman

of course I agree with most of your thread. But as always there are big companies that are going to do just this in the future. I would guess that all lakes will be mapped sometime in the future. The Minnesota DNR has been mapping lakes for a long time and they provide the information for free. This data is available for virtually every lake in MN.

Of course the data is not that accurate. The maps I would produce does not mean the lake will be "fished out" the information is only what you can make of it.

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Mapman    0
Mapman

What lakes do you think would be most desired in OT county?

Yes the maps would be gps accurate. I'm going to have a website setup soon with some sample data. I'll post the link when it is complete.

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101winchester    1
101winchester

I guess I'm just to old fashioned, I remember the days of lining up the oak tree and the manure spreader, holding the anchor at the knot and drifting onto sandbars. Hope all goes well in your endevor. grin.gif

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threeway    0
threeway

I believe that Navionics has this pretty much covered. I doubt that you will be able to compete with them.

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fishin58    1
fishin58

I think this would be great for many fisherman, that dont like to hit the Bigger waters, I myself like to stick to the smaller lakes, I think that many people feel that way, I dont like the recreation scene on the bigger lakes. But somethin to help fish the smaller lakes is always helpful.

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Mapman    0
Mapman

Thank you for the input. I have received mostly positive feedback. I would still like some readers to write in about lakes they would like to see.

Thanks again! keep the posts coming in.

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bigbluepirahna    0
bigbluepirahna

I think every lake in Otter Tail county, even the very smallest, should have a detailed map if it has an access. If I can legally get on the water, I would like to know what's down there. I usually like to fish the small lakes because there is less pressure and they can be hidden gems. There is tough competition now with these maps, but if you have the niche of small lakes you might be able to make it. Good luck.

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Mark Christianson    0
Mark Christianson

I'll bite Mapman.

I'd like to see East Battle in detail. Theres a lot of "stuff" in that lake thats not on the generic DNR map.

The sky is the limit in OT county though. Pick 10 and go for it.

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shae1986    0
shae1986

I'd like to see Long Lake by Vergas and Rose in detail, Very good lakes.

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Mapman    0
Mapman

East Battle is one that I have some data collected but is a work in progress. This information is very valuable! as far as Rose and Long I will consider them for my list. I would like to brag for a minute....The technology that I have would allow me to do these lakes in a short period of time.

I'm exploring the option of waterproof paper maps at this time and could be available shortly. Thanks for the input again, keep it coming in!

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Fishin_addict    2
Fishin_addict

By detailed your talking 3' contour lines ? If so I would like to see clitherall, buchanan, big pine , little pine,and all the leafs on your list.

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esoxfreek    0
esoxfreek

the new chip has alot of the smaller lakes on the 07 chip,

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Mark Christianson    0
Mark Christianson

They are not the high def maps though.

In Ottertail County, the 07 chip only has a few of the high def maps. All the other lake maps are just the generic DNR type maps. Little to no accurate detail.

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shae1986    0
shae1986

I agree

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Mapman    0
Mapman

Getting these smaller lakes in hi-def 3 foot contours is my mission. Great to hear about the lakes users would like. My list is growing. Thanks.

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PRFISHER    0
PRFISHER

I would like some of the high water lakes...

South Turtle

Norway

Fish (weetown)

North Turtle (if they put an access in)

Some of these lakes have gone up 8-10 feet since the DNR maps were put out....

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hert2005    0
hert2005

YES!!! to the high water lakes.

Any map I've seen on these lakes are pretty much worthless.

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Mapman    0
Mapman

High water lakes? interesting. I'll have to give that some thought. The website is almost ready...but I still haven't come up with any "catchy" names.

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PRFISHER    0
PRFISHER

As was mentioned these 4 lakes the maps are pretty much useless when it comes to specific detail, they give you the general idea of bottom structure in the old lake basin, but some of the lakes have grown in size and flooded other area low bottoms and structure that were High and Dry in the old DNR maps. These are extremly small lakes and I don't know if the demand for them would be out there. I would bet the water proof maps at local bait stores would do good.

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threeway    0
threeway

It won't be long and they will be coming out with the lakes suggested. In three and even one foot contours.

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