Guests - If You want access to member only forums on FM. You will gain access only when you Sign-in or Sign-Up on Fishing Minnesota.

It's easy - LOOK UPPER right menu.

  • Announcements

    • Rick

      Members Only Fluid Forum View   08/08/2017

      Fluid forum view allows members only to get right to the meat of this community; the topics. You can toggle between your preferred forum view just below to the left on the main forum entrance. You will see three icons. Try them out and see what you prefer.   Fluid view allows you, if you are a signed up member, to see the newest topic posts in either all forums (select none or all) or in just your favorite forums (select the ones you want to see when you come to Fishing Minnesota). It keeps and in real time with respect to Topic posts and lets YOU SELECT YOUR FAVORITE FORUMS. It can make things fun and easy. This is especially true for less experienced visitors raised on social media. If you, as a members want more specific topics, you can even select a single forum to view. Let us take a look at fluid view in action. We will then break it down and explain how it works in more detail.   The video shows the topic list and the forum filter box. As you can see, it is easy to change the topic list by changing the selected forums. This view replaces the traditional list of categories and forums.   Of course, members only can change the view to better suit your way of browsing.   You will notice a “grid” option. We have moved the grid forum theme setting into the main forum settings. This makes it an option for members only to choose. This screenshot also shows the removal of the forum breadcrumb in fluid view mode. Fluid view remembers your last forum selection so you don’t lose your place when you go back to the listing. The benefit of this feature is easy to see. It removes a potential barrier of entry for members only. It puts the spotlight on topics themselves, and not the hierarchical forum structure. You as a member will enjoy viewing many forums at once and switching between them without leaving the page. We hope that fluid view, the new functionality is an asset that you enjoy .
Sign in to follow this  
Ufatz

I almost upchucked!

Recommended Posts

Ufatz

Flipped to the outdoor page of the Tribune this morning and the first thing I saw was the photo of a stringer of dead trout. I thought I'd be sick. Ha! Just shows how ingrained a behavior pattern can be, eh? I KNOW guys keep trout etc.etc., but occasionally it is brought home to me in cold,grim reality. Fish on boys, fish on...while I quietly avert my eyes. confused.gif

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
fishface

Is you one of them fish huggers? grin.gif

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
turiprap

Well, it is a blood sport no matter what. Even barbless hook, articials only, catch and release only anglers do occasionally kill fish, whether by playing them to exhaustion, hooking fish in the gills or tongue or by intoducing fungal infections through handling, for example.

The real questions always are:

1) Are you actually going to eat the fish you kill?

and

2) Can the stream from which you're removing the fish tolerate the harvest?

In the case of the fish pictured in the Stribune, they look like stocker rainbows to me (although I only have seen the crummy online edtion photo), which are pretty much placed in the river for the dining enjoyment of the catch and keep contingent.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
WxGuy

There are a few particular streams, especially some with 12-16" slot limits where harvest would do the fish some good. Sounds absolutely ludicrous to some, but it is what it is.

The forage base in many streams just isn't what it used to be due to poor land use practices. There are some streams with over 4200 fish/mile in SE MN, but the forage base doesn't adequately support the growth of those fish. Sure, those fish aren't dying of starvation, but many never grow over 12" because of lack of cover, lack of forage, and lack of feeding lies for all the fish.

There are some streams where wild trout are coming along, but needed a little help (according to DNR data) to sustain a naturally reproducing population, so the DNR put C&R regulations on those streams. Note there are only a few streams that are C&R and they are a very small percentage of SE MN's designated trout streams.

There are some streams where the DNR is trying to encourage the growth of larger trout, and in order for larger trout, there needs to be healthy habitat. In the meantime, until steps can be made to radically improve the habitat, harvesting trout less than 12" can improve growth rates and hopefully make for more larger fish. In many streams there is already evidence that the regulations are working (according to the DNR), and if you've fished some of the areas where habitat restoration work has been done, it's clear that there are more larger fish.

As far as rainbow trout in SE MN go, they're only introduced for one reason, and that's angler harvest. Enjoy them.

There's a huge difference between trout and trout waters in the Driftless and the freestone streams of the Rocky Mountains. The biggest difference is the intermingling of agriculture and cold spring creeks. Finding a happy medium between making sure we all get our steaks, milk, and corn while making sure the trout can thrive is key. I'm not a vegetarian/vegan, so I'm all for trying to make it work.

Wow, sorry for all that.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
turiprap

A thoughtful and informative post, WxGuy. I wish that I had had the time - and your verbal skills - to detail so well what I meant by "withstand the harvest."

I think that both the Minnesota and Wisconsin DNRs are doing a remarkable job of fitting regulations to the watershed, i.e. identifying and regulating streams on an individual basis rather than using a blanket "five fish daily" or whatever limit.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Ufatz

Nice update/summary there WxGuy. I KNOW all that but still have my adverse reaction to those poor dead fish hangin' on a stringer. Anybody knows trout taste like week old liver so you guys eat 'em if you want, but I'll take Spam sandwich. Okay. Carry on men. grin.gif

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Muddog

No; they taste like Bullheads. Or is it, Bullheads taste like Trout?

Never mind.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
dkhntr

i dunno, my Rainbows that just got off the smoker dont taste so bad. confused.gifconfused.gif I dont see what the fuss is about.

However before people get thier panties in a bunch, I will toss back a Brown or a Brook as fast as it came out of the water, so dont worry about those, their safe with me.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Bugman

I am mostly a catch and release angler myself but I do occasionally bring home a fresh catch for a nice meal. As far as trout tasting lousy ...you must not be cooking them right. tongue.gif

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Ice-9

Wx is right, all about the food. So when upchucking, kindly direct your stream into the stream, and restrict your diet to aquatic larvae, small fishes and crustaceans, and the occasional mulberry. Every bit counts

ice

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Craig_S

Welcome back Ice. I missed your wit and creativity. I'll just puke fish. Easier for me to swallow.

Craig

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Ice-9

I hibernate.

We got to meet up. I have a new gig that is going to require me to do a lot of fly fishing. Tough duty, etc.

ice

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Craig_S

How abouts you hook up with Stiff, and we make some plans for Red Lake in late May. I'll let ya sleep in the basement. If you behave.

Stiff says he'll bring some gawd awful brew. Both of you can teach me how to fish.

bonefishschmiddy at yahoo (Contact Us Please) com I don't check that one often, so give me a heads up.

Craig

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.
Sign in to follow this  



  • Posts

    • HugeHogChaser
      any luck there? i've never had luck. hoping to break my unlucky streak soon.
    • HugeHogChaser
      Good afternoon guys, I live in Burnsville and I was wondering if anyone has had much luck on Crystal Lake for bass and Pike? I've fished it a few times and only caught 2 bass in a total of 8 hours.  Not looking for any specific locations, but any tips would be much appreciated!!!   Live bait? Plastics? Troll cranks for pike? thanks guys, have a great day. Gabe   
    • smurfy
      i hope soo!!!!!! but being it MEA weekend 'm guessing it will be a zoo till sunday!!!!!!!
    • gunner55
      There were 5 maybe 6 boats over at the resort Thursday - Sunday. Heard they were doing some hunting too. Pretty quiet on the bay, most of the docks & lifts are out. Probably going to get real quiet after you show up.
    • jayway
      1) Lumen (lm) Lumen is the international(SI) unit of luminous flux, a measure of overall light emitted by a light source. 2) Candela (cd) Candela is the international(SI) unit of luminous intensity, a measure of light emitted by a light source in a particular direction.
      Any given light source will have different luminous intensities in different directions considered.
      [candela = lumen/solid angle] 3) Beam Angle [Unit : degree] Beam angle is the angle between two directions for which the luminous intensity is 50% of the maximum intensity as measured in a plan through the nominal beam center-line. The beam angle of a lamp gives an idea of how the light beam spread away form the beam center. 4) LUX (lx) Lux is the international(SI) unit of illuminance, a measure of light arriving at a surface, 1 lumen per square foot equals 1 foot-candle, while 1 lumen per square meter equals 1 lux.
      [lux = lumen/m2] 5) Color Temperature / Correlated Color Temperature (CCT) A black-Body radiator will have different color when it is heated up to different temperature(in kelvin). The temperature at which the heated black-body radiator matches the color of the light source is the color temperature of the light source. 6) Color Rendering Index (CR) Color rendering index, ranged from 0-100, measures a light source's ability to reproduce the color of various objects being lit by reference light source, black body radiator (CRI=100) 7) Efficacy (lm/W) Efficacy is the efficacy of a light source to convert electricity power to light expressed in lumen output per unit power input (watt)
      [Efficacy = lumen / wattage] 8) Dimming Not all lighting products are designed for dimming function. None-dimming LED lighting product will cause unpredictable result and may affect the life time of the products. The below figure shows the typical input current variation while adjusting the DC voltage input to dimming and none-dimming product.
    • Smoker
      I will check it out a little latter. It looks like a good idea. I do a small diamond wrap on a lot of my ice rods.
    • gimruis
      I'm gonna go but not before some of these crops get harvested.  It may not be until Thanksgiving but at least I'll increase my odds if I wait for a better chance of success.
    • monstermoose78
      I have not seen a bird during season yet but I will get one or two I hope
    • monstermoose78
      Looks like you got one woodcock and a snipe but I could be wrong but great job shooting.
    • walleye29us
      This is the insulated model. 8x8. If anyone wants it this week I'll let it go for 240.00. Won't  find a better deal!