Guests - If You want access to member only forums on FM. You will gain access only when you Sign-in or Sign-Up on Fishing Minnesota.

It's easy - LOOK UPPER right menu.

  • RECEIVE THE GIFTS MEMBERS SHARE WITH YOU HERE...THEN...CREATE SOMETHING TO ENCHANT OTHERS THAT YOU WANT TO SHARE

    You know what we all love...

    When you enchant people, you fill them with delight and yourself in return. Have Fun!!!

Sign in to follow this  
BobT

Line color

Recommended Posts

BobT

When you guys put new line on your fishing reels, how much importance to put on line color? Do you think color matters to the fish? Are there certain colors that seem to have an affect on your fishing success more than others? Is color more important to the fisherman than to the fish?

Bob

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Cliff Wagenbach

Bob,

All good questions!

If you are trolling I do not believe that line color matters at all, except maybe right at your leader at times for certain fish.

I tie my walleye jigs directly to the green Power Pro line I spool all of my reels with during the summer. But I always add a Cajun Red leader to my lindy rigs.

In the winter I use a clear or florocarbon line thru the ice. I think that when the fish have plenty of time to sit and watch your bait they can be spooked a lot more by line colors and line that is too heavy.

Cliff

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
LIGHTLINE

PERSONALLY I LOOK AT LINE AS A VISUAL FOR MY EYES,NOT FOR THE FISH. THE DIAMETER OF THE LINE IS MORE IMPORTANT TO ME IN CATCHING THE FISH ,THE LIGHTER THE LINE THE BETTER THE ACTION ON THE BAITS,IF YOUR VERTICAL FISHING IN THE HIGH CURRENT YOU MIGHT THINK OF USING A LINE WEIGHT THAT SUITS THE CURRENT CONDITIONS TO BALENCE THE WEIGHT TO CURRENT.

SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Deitz Dittrich

I pay a lot of attension to it in clear water. In stained water I dont think it matters at all... I also feel that in heavy cover line visability has little to do with a fish bitting.

Ice fishing, I try and use the most inviable lightest test I can get away with.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Ralph Wiggum

I think it's totally situation dependant. When fish are pounding a spinnerbait, buzzbait, or some other type of reaction bait, I don't think line color makes a lick of difference. When I'm live bait fishing or going with a finesse tactic like drop-shotting, I try to keep my line as incisible as possible. Then again, I guess most of my live bait fishing is done for cats and sturgeon, and I don't think they'd mind if I tied my rig on the anchor rope.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
DougSpringBay

Line color is huge!!!!!

I use Gamma Green mono for ALL mono applications. When bass fishing, you need to be a line watcher, and the green can be difficult. You just have to train your eye to see it. I think that is makes a difference. Topwater is not so important, but all under water conditions it is green for me. The only exception, is when I use Gamma Flourocarbon. Exceptionally clear water (i.e. LOW) requires it.

I always use a Gamma Flourocarbon leader when walleye fishing. Jig or Lindy, doesn't matter.

Muskie fishing--- Gamma Flourocarbon leaders---- Yes, it matters.

Just my opinion, I am sure there are lots of other comments to be made on the subject.

Doug

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
LIGHTLINE

MUSKIE,NORTHERN AND BASS WILL EAT ANY THING THATS IN FRONT OF THEM. THEY ARE OPPORTUNISTIC EATERS. I HAVE NEVER HAD ANY LINE COLOR ISSUES FOR ANY OF THESE SPICIES. IN FACT, THE MAJORITY OF THE OLD SCHOOL FISHERMAN WOULD USE A CABLE LEADER FOR ATTACK STRENGTH APPLICATIONS. NEED TO DISAGREE WITH YOU ON YOUR MONO ADVERTISEMENT THERE CHIEF.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Northlander

In darker waters or faster moving waters I dont think line color matters much. When Im jigging a river current I like high vis power pro in Yellow or the flame green trilene if I want mono. Fish arent getting much time to look things over so I dont think color is much of a factor in these situations.

Time of year is also a factor. In early spring when run off is happening and water is more turbid line color isnt as big a factor as lets say in late fall when lakes have turned over and visibility is much increased.

The faster a bait is moving the less line diameter or color is a factor of course. Trolling sticks and bottom bouncing spinners I dont worry much about color. Slow trolling Lindy rigs I use the lightest clearest line I can get. Usually at least a floro leader on the end of my Power Pro.

I know of a few "Pros" that use bright lines almost all the time. The thinking is that the line almost points out the bait to the fish.

If you have bad eyes or just want to be able to see your line better then I would use a bright line and just tie on a clear leader of your favorite line with a back to back uni knot or even a small barrel swivel when appropriate.

Winter when the water is as clear as it will be I always tie on a clear leader to my Power Pro when jigging anything. When using a bobber I use a clear mono and when dead sticking I use mono or a mono leader depending on fish Im targeting.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Borch

Well I used to think that line color made a huge difference. However, I'm finding that although it at times can be a factor it's a lot less important than I once thought.

Personally I feel much like Northlander. With fast presentation color and line diameter do not usually make a significant difference(i.e. Pulling spinners or cranks). I do use flourocarbon on some of my spinner rigs due to their high abbrasion resistence. I do however feel that line diameter and flexibility has a lot of impact in those finesse presentations. Mostly due to how the bait responses more natural with lightweight presentations with the lighter lines. Lighter line allows livebait to do it's thing with less resistence from the line. It also allows very small light lures to fall and move more naturally.

I also know a few guys(maybe they're the same guys) using the low diameter high vis yellow ice lines for panfish in clear water and seeing positive difference in their catch rates over the clear lines. Maybe because it makes line watching for very subtle bites easier. Who knows for sure.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
backlash 1

If you have the oportunity to use an aqua view you will see just how visable most any line is to the human eye at least. I use 4 lb clear for panfish in the summer, and when you see it on the camara, it sticks out like a sore thumb!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
BobT

Most of my fishing involves walleye using the more finesse approaches like jigging and live bait rigging. Sounds like most would prefer to stay with darker more invisible or neutral colors for sure but it would appear that you would agree that line diameter also is an important consideration.

Would I be accurate to suggest that most of you prefer to err on the side of lighter, thinner line when choosing? I could also see that smaller diameter would be less visible as well.

Thanks for sharing.

Bob

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Deitz Dittrich

Yes usually smaller diam line is harder for the fish to see, it also will help in that lures will usually have better action on lighter line.

For me it really depends on what kind of fish I am fishing for, and how clear the water is. The presentation also has a lot to do with what pound test I am using too..

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
DougSpringBay

I guess that is why it is so easy to win tourneys. Especially bass and muskie. They just eat anything you put in front of them. Sorry, line color does matter. Diameter matters greatly as well. I have just found that since switching to Gamma line, I can drop in line diameter, without giving up tensile strength. With walleye, color and diameter is everything. Need to disagree with you on that chief.

Doug

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Ralph Wiggum

Doug,

Just to stir the pot, I can remember reading an article in the past year (In-fisherman, I think) about some walleye pros that use high-vis green line on their rigs and they do just fine.

I'm not saying that you're wrong, just that there are several schools of thought and just because you catch fish one way doesn't necessarily mean that your way is the only way.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
DougSpringBay

Ralph,

If you will refer to the first post I made on this subject, you will see my closing remark. As I said before, this is just my opinion, and that I am sure there are many differnt ideas on the subject. That is what this forum is about. Guys who share what they do and are having success doing it. Never once did I state that mine was the only way. The post began asking opinions on line color. I just shared mine, and what works for me. I also included my comments on a relatively new fishing line, that I am 100% sold on. It is always nice when someone can offer advice/opinion on new products, or techiniques. I learn a lot from reading this forum. When someone really comments favoarably on a product, I will tend to really look into it. I am always wanting to learn.

Doug

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Ralph Wiggum

I'm not going to argue with you, but this post seemed quite derogatory to a previous poster. If I mistook the tone of your post, my fault.

Quote:

I guess that is why it is so easy to win tourneys. Especially bass and muskie. They just eat anything you put in front of them. Sorry, line color does matter. Diameter matters greatly as well. I have just found that since switching to Gamma line, I can drop in line diameter, without giving up tensile strength. With walleye, color and diameter is everything. Need to disagree with you on that chief.

Doug


Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
DougSpringBay

Ralph,

See his reply to my first post.

No intent to argue. I first posted, and have been slammed from the git go. Gamma is great line, try it if you like it. I believe in green mono and flourocarbon. Maybe it is just a confidence thing. However, nearly all of what I have learned has been from other fisherman, and personal experience. Though I believe in the green and flourocarbon, I got waxed in a tournament by a guy using BRIGHT YELLOW stren line. We were both throwing spinnerbaits on laydowns and in shallow flooded timeber in the fall. Though I got schooled that day, I have never tied on line that bright. My loss? Who knows. I say again, just giving my opinion and expressing what works for me. Maybe I should try bright Stren. I would certainly respect anyone who believes in it. I just ask the same courtesy.

Doug

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Northlander

I also thought it was a sarcastic/derogatory post. Ending it with calling someone "Chief" sent me beyond you just giving your opinion to someone.

Reading a screen isnt a exact science though so I could be wrong. crazy.gif

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
DougSpringBay

Northlander,

My reply using Chief, was simply to a direct response to a previous reply to my post using the same. As I said before. Courtesy should go both directions. My origional post had no intention but answer the origional posting, and to give review of what I think is a great product. Pretty common information on the forum.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
MT Net

I have always wondered about line color. My thought is if fish can see line why do they get caught in gill and trap nets?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
DougSpringBay

I have always wondered how they can discriminate between real forage fish and a $5 crankbait, but can't a $20 crankbait, when they both have treble hooks on the bottom. I think a lot of this is confidence, but then again, maybe it all matters. Gives us a lot of options to spend money on. If newer and better wasn't an option, what would us fisherman do each year in order to have a Christmas list. Worse yet, there would be no other option than a new tie for fathers day.

Doug

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Bob/Mn

The line I use for Panfish is 4 pound gold stren or flame green fireline. I tip these lines with six foot of vantage using the blood knot. This system works well for me under low light conditions, fishing jigs with slack line.

I have a friend that uses gold stren 2 and 4 pound test tied directly to the jig. He catches as many fish as any one else.

I keep thinking that we give the fish credit for being a heck of a lot smarter than really they are. :-)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
upnorth

I use 4# trilene clear or green. I believe the more invisible the line the better your odds, especially when the fish are being finicky. I have definetly caught more fish fishing side by side with someone fishing high vis line when the fish are finicky. If the bite is hot and heavy, I thinks the advantage is somewhat negated.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Cbreeze

I think I'm gonna chime in with my 2 cents here. I think the real answer was just given. "When the fish are hitting heavy, anything will work." I think there is a lot of truth in that statement...however, those instances are not the norm (at least for me) and why not put the odds in your favor ALL the time. Line diameter...lightest possible! Florocarbon...(especially leaders) for eye's! Power Pro 10/2...nothing better for sensitivity and being vertical in current (and casts pretty well too!). We don't always know when we hit a body of water how the fish are biting and, by putting things a little more in our favor, it can't hurt...right? Anyway, I also don't believe in most cases, that color really matters when throwing spinner baits...etc. For those applications I usually just throw green as it seem pretty neutral. Thought I'd say my piece. By the way, I will be trying the Gamma line next year! grin.gif

Cbreeze

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.
Sign in to follow this  



  • Your Responses - Share & Have Fun :)

    • smurfy
      i'm considering going out sat to chase walleyes, cats or crappies................OK whatever will bite. whats frustrating is i live 5 mile from the chain, grew up in richmond and all these maps have me confused??????????
    • DonBo
      Toying with the idea of heading up there Saturday morning. Only been there a couple times, never on the opener.
    • JBMasterAngler
      Anyone go out on the opener? I usually wait a week before heading up there, so curious to hear some ice/fishing reports.
    • Roscoe010
      Did any of you check out the pits for winter trout opener last weekend? Thanks!
    • leech~~
      Well hopefully you can still get out with Dad another weekend yet this winter. Building memories are things that last.
    • AaronTC05
      I upgraded from my Little Buddy to a Portable Buddy (not a Big Buddy which seemed like over kill for a 2-3 man portable).  I figured that would work best for my needs.  Turns out I was right.  The heater warmed my 949i enough that I could fish with my gloves off which was nice.  I definitely noticed though as soon as a tank ran out, it got chilly quick since I had a few holes open to allow some fresh air in. My dad chickened out since he would be coming from WI and it was snowing over there still the roads were slick (as they were here also).  Also made sense since we didn't know how well the shack would stay warm.  So I stayed close to home.  I was going to head to Cedar Lake near New Prague since it appears to have a healthy pan fish population to keep me entertained, but the guy I talked to at Prior Lake Bait & Tackle said Prior was a better bet, so I took his advice.  I started fishing about 10 am after finding a spot and getting setup in about 20 FOW in the basin away from the crowds.  I only managed to connect on a few dink perch, one that was borderline keeper size that I threw back just before heading home about 5:30.  I didn't mark a single suspended fish in my spot.  I drilled some holes in various depths not far from my shack but still didn't find any marks and got cold and headed back into my warm shack. I had a fathead on a tip up in case a hungry walleye came by but had no takers.  A tip I heard recently was to hook them through the butt and out the side, which makes them sort of upside down which they hate so they continue to struggle and move in the water the whole time trying to right them selves.  I dropped by camera down and watched this and it seemed to work to keep it moving, although I didn't catch anything so who knows if the fish actually like it.
    • cookie129
      Not sure what's going on  but I'm still loosing track of days. Bouncing around in the red baron, checking on customers ,enjoying the football game at Hillmens Tall tale Tavern man was that fun, getting a few games of pool in last night to practice for my next match. Playing a round of texas hold em with the wells fargo boys in north dakota, visiting with all the customers, moving houses, plowing new roads, plowing old roads, battling mother nature, the winds were howling  sunday night after another small dumping of snow.
       I wrote in my note book on Wednesday the 17th CLOSED.
       The fishing has been crazy good? Not sure what's that all about but will take it as its so nice to see everyone catching more then a  few.
       Stevejames won my giveaway on Minnesota Outdoorsman, I have been giving a way a free night as a prize on there fishing challenge for a few years. He arrived Friday for old Minnesota with his buddy Mike and there 2 boys Nolan and Ayden. They rented one day so they were here for 2 nights and did real well. I got a great pic of there stringer of fish, It was a treat seeing the kids  outside playing ,enjoying the great outdoors.
       Terry, Sarha ,Carl and Kenny were in florida for 3 nights. They also had a grand time on a grand lake. This was there third year with me. They said they will be back again next year if I will have them? There such nice people, I was able to visit off and on wth them as they fed me breakfast burritos , French dips after the Viking game. Carl got 4 deer  so they also brought me a care package of venison. I'm making my coleslaw for them next year and may treat them to a night of my cooking to boot. I mentioned to Sarah the first day she should tie a string to her fishing pole? OOPs darn if it did not go down a hole.
       Scott the wells fargo boys have also did well, they went to Westwind for fish and the Viking game and also had a hoot. Then when they got back to the house Scott got treated to "yes a elusive yet still catchable upper red lake crappie" A beautiful 14 a half inch masterpiece. Another great group of guys and they got my 10 dollars last night. I played a little to loose and lost all my chips.
       Mel, Dan and Dane arrived for old Minnesota sunday, I told Dan get a line down first thing. Before they were unpacked they had 2  in the bucket. Yesterday Dane was catching fish on the rattle wheel from the top bunk. They enjoyed Fish for dinner last night as Mel is a master chef, she also fed me hodgepodge for breakfast yesterday. They have been coming up here for 14 years summer and winter.
       Snowbear Josh headed home for a couple days so I'm taking care of a couple of his guest and they were slaying the fish the last two days.
       I just talked to Jarred and his buddie Jim they were in montana last night and got there 8.
       Angie and here hubbie and there friends were in montana sunday.  I think they ended up with 9 with there friends, The kids fished in one of Joshes 2 man houses and there friends went home sunday eve,.
        Mother nature has been kicking my but. Yesterday I plowed off and on all day, cleaning up the drifts. Buddy Hillmens Highway is again in great shape. I expect we will be making more main roads in the next day or two.
       I did here form Brandon I had set up in a secret spot and they also did real well Friday eve,
      Ken and his buddies also did well where I plowed them a spot. Throwing darts and hitting bulls eyes feel good. Well its past my starting time. we start at 9, so again its time to check the fluids and hit the ice on such a Grand lake that owes us nothing! Nothing!  
    • leech~~
      Needle valve is sticking open or bad diaphragm.
    • sparetime
      Seems to be flooding out.  I have pulled the plug after trying to restart and its wet, so yes flooding out. 
    • Surface Tension
      After it dies pull the spark plug. Is it wet or is it dry. 
  • Share & Have Fun