Guests - If You want access to member only forums on FM. You will gain access only when you Sign-in or Sign-Up on Fishing Minnesota.

It's easy - LOOK UPPER right menu.

Sign in to follow this  
Followers 0
Knute78

Bucks Sparing Already?

6 posts in this topic

Both this morning and tonight I witnessed something I have had yet to see in Spetember in over 10 yrs of bowhunting. This morning I had two smaller bucks a 1.5 yr 6 pt and a 1.5 yr fork come out infront of me at about 80 yrs. They procedeed to circle around each other and then began to spar somewhat intensely for a few minutes then the smaller buck was run off. Then tonight on a different stand I had almost the same situation play out with a spike and a baldy(maybe a button buck?). They also fought rather intensly for a much shorter duration before the baldy ran off. This whole time numerous other deer were in the field feeding while these young guys got at it with each other.

I know that young buck will practice sparing with each other but I have never seen it happen so early in the season.

Whats up, could it be the cooler weather? Could we be in for an earlier rut this year? Is this unusual or have I simply not been lucky in past seasons and simply not come across sparing so early? Just wanted to get some thoughts.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Rut has nothing to do with temperature, it is directly associated with daylight.... young bucks typically in the 1-1/2 year old range have this sudden urge that they have no idea what to do with, they are rookies so to speak and act like it. Kinda like the freshman at college going to his first keg party, gets all worked up over all the chicks but it's the seniors that are patient that score...stupid analogy, sorry.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

No, perfect analogy.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I know rut has nothing to do with temperature, I actually asked seperate questions about this behavior being related to cooler temperature or possibly even rut. I have seen sparing amongst young bucks before but never this early in the season.

I wanted to know your thoughts on why this might be the case this year as opposed to the 2nd week - mid-October when I have noticed this before. I do believe I understand the phases of the rut fairly well.

Has anyone else seen this behavior already this year?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Stratosman, I was reading this post and didn't mean to make it sound rude. Sorrry about that, I basically want to know if this is common behavior this early in the season.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Happens all the time - they've shed velvet and now can 'test' each other. Thats why light rattling will work this time of year. I saw it a week and half ago - kind of neat, often time you'll see a little fart spar with a big boy. Other times if the big guy ain't in the mood the little fart will run around the big one like a puppy and the old boy will just kind of put the head down, ears back a bit as if to say, Not now junior. Cool stuff. It only last so long before things get a hair more serious grin.gif

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.
Sign in to follow this  
Followers 0

  • Posts

    • I plan on taking all my ice fishing equipment out of my shed this week I cant wait

    • fins_n'_feathers

      Posted

      any  reports from today? we pounded through the washing machine waves all day and got nothing! Lead core,jigging, spinners haha! Ended up getting all our keepers within a mile of home when it was all over! Who else was out there? Am I the only one that did poor today?

    • proguide

      Posted

      Cool nights and only a few warming hours each day have water temps coming down into the 50s this week.  This is actually pretty normal for the last week of September so there is nothing to odd here. 
       
      The catfish have slowed down over the past few days with this cool off.  They are still around to catch.  They are hanging near structure, usually on the drop off to the channel right next to it.  They are also on the softer side of the current in holes.  It seems that longer sit times are in order this week to allow the fish to come out, find and decide to eat the bait.
       

      Sucker seems to be the bait of choice right now.  Frogs just have not been getting any attention.

    • leech~~

      Posted

      26 minutes ago, DANR said:

      From the fall Pelican Lakes Association newsletter - DNR Fisheries Update:

      You may have heard about the 454 adult cormorantsthat were removed from Gooseberrry Island this May by the U.S. Department of Agriculture’s Wildlife Services Unit under a permit from the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service.  DNR staff looked at the stomach contents of 30 birds. Eleven of those birds had stomach contents including: 38 perch (mostly 4- inchers), 7 spot-tail shiners, 7 bluegills, 6 crappies, 1 rock bass, 1 pike, and zero walleyes.

      Thanks for the Update.  Hopefully they shoot 400 more next spring! :):)

    • FishinCT

      Posted

      They were really slow today. I fished hard all day and didn't manage much. Went over tons of fish and they weren't active at all. Should get better as the weekend gets closer...I hope

    • gizmoguy

      Posted

      Go with steel. Contact Isle supply.

    • From the fall Pelican Lakes Association newsletter - DNR Fisheries Update:

      You may have heard about the 454 adult cormorantsthat were removed from Gooseberrry Island this May by the U.S. Department of Agriculture’s Wildlife Services Unit under a permit from the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service.  DNR staff looked at the stomach contents of 30 birds. Eleven of those birds had stomach contents including: 38 perch (mostly 4- inchers), 7 spot-tail shiners, 7 bluegills, 6 crappies, 1 rock bass, 1 pike, and zero walleyes. 

    • Hello Friends:

      Looking for some help as I've been up here since yesterday morning and only two 22" walleyes. I've fished fairly hard (5 or 6 hours) and tried all of my normal spots in Frazer/Smarts/Narrows area using all presentations with minnows and crawlers. Would love to have a walleye dinner (couple of 15's) for my black lab and I tomorrow night and any suggestions would be welcomed.

      I'm not looking for spots, but general depth and bait.

      Thanks guys

      Andy

       

    • delcecchi

      Posted

      It is great.  I don't know if they are still doing grumpy gary chicken this time of year but it is good.  They have specials on various nights, at least in summer.  

    • Sculpin

      Posted

      Dennis Anderson, Outdoor writer for the Minneapolis Tribune had a nice write up on the duck opener at Pelican. In addition there were some locals quoted on duck hunting there. Sounds like the ducks are back, and they have the water levels well under control.



  • Posts

    • ZachD
      I plan on taking all my ice fishing equipment out of my shed this week I cant wait
    • fins_n'_feathers
      any  reports from today? we pounded through the washing machine waves all day and got nothing! Lead core,jigging, spinners haha! Ended up getting all our keepers within a mile of home when it was all over! Who else was out there? Am I the only one that did poor today?
    • proguide
      Cool nights and only a few warming hours each day have water temps coming down into the 50s this week.  This is actually pretty normal for the last week of September so there is nothing to odd here. 
        The catfish have slowed down over the past few days with this cool off.  They are still around to catch.  They are hanging near structure, usually on the drop off to the channel right next to it.  They are also on the softer side of the current in holes.  It seems that longer sit times are in order this week to allow the fish to come out, find and decide to eat the bait.
        Sucker seems to be the bait of choice right now.  Frogs just have not been getting any attention.
    • leech~~
      Thanks for the Update.  Hopefully they shoot 400 more next spring!
    • FishinCT
      They were really slow today. I fished hard all day and didn't manage much. Went over tons of fish and they weren't active at all. Should get better as the weekend gets closer...I hope