Guests - If You want access to member only forums on FM. You will gain access only when you Sign-in or Sign-Up on Fishing Minnesota.

It's easy - LOOK UPPER right menu.

Sign in to follow this  
Followers 0
Trainman

Final Detroit Series

53 posts in this topic

Well this is it. Final 4-game showdown with Detroit. Baker lost today, AGAIN no run support. We almost matched Detroit on hits, but too many double plays.

Let's see if Garza, Boof, and Santana can keep us within reach.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

"The Twins' 22-year-old rookie learned a bit of a lesson in his last start against the Yankees on Sept. 3 -- pitching with all fastballs isn't going to cut it in the Majors."

Above is from the preview on the MLP Web-Page. Our Rookie Pitcher, Justin Verlander, won last night. A couple weeks ago he was getting hammered, and Leyland took him out of a game. Later, Leyland said Verlander "fell in love with his fastball and threw it for 26 of his last 29 pitches. That won't cut it in this league, young man." Sounds like these two have quite a bit in common. Verlander has gone from a strike out pitcher to an "out" pitcher. Ground ball double plays are getting to be common when he pitches. He is not throwing the 101 mph heat, but 95 plus with some movement, plus a very good curve and change up.

Tonight's starter, Ledesma is another kid who Leylang gave a chance to. He has pitched much like Verlander, with just about the same results. Not quite as fast. He too, is learning there is a difference between throwing and pitching. We'll get six inings from him and turn it over to "Zoom Zoom" Zumaya. I hope, with a lead.

Good luck.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

RJ,

What is the latest over there as to what they are going to do with Maroth now? Isn't he scheduled to come of the DL soon?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Last I heard on him was he was ready to come of the DL. MLB.com shows him on the 25 man roster. I have heard of no plans to start him. Maybe a relief appearance or two. Our current starters are rally pitching well, and skipper may be reluctant to change it. Not sure, and they aren't saying much.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Twins rookie pulled one out today 9-5. Looks like the Chisox are going to win so today was crucial. Let's hope Bonser and Santanna can keep it going!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Trainman,

I think you may be psychic or you spoke too soon because Jenks blew a two run lead in the ninth giving up 4 doubles in a row to start. They went from a 5-3 lead to losing 6-5 going into the ninth, they AJ went yard with Konerko on first for a walk off victory. I guess with 21 games left I will take any kind of a win but it is obvious that the Sox are going to really have to grind this out as 4 of their key players should be on the DL but you know that at this time of the year they will keep playing. Thome is still hurt and has not gotten his swing back yet, Dye is still nursing a sore back, Crede was out again tonight with a bad back and Jenks looked terrible in his first outing since Boston. These injuries could not have happened at a worse time but you just have to suck it up because every team gets injuries. It looks like the Sox picked the worst time for their, unless you are a Twinkie or Kittie fan...Which everybody on this thread is except me and maybe Commanche Jim, though we have not heard too much from him this year. I know he is really working on getting his new restaurant up and coming but it would sure be nice to have a little extra Southside love amonst all you Twinkie-lovers. Oh well, it's still anybody's game and the Kitties have to see the building cloud of smoke behind them coming from both the Twin Cities and the Windy City. I will close, as usual with an extra shout out to AJ, the hero tonight...YOU CAN PUT IT ON THE BOARD....YES! Windy

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

So thats your excuse for Jenks getting Rocked again...... blush.gif

ZERO chance for a repeat this year my fair weather friend....

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I thought left handed pitching was supposed to beat, or at least neutralize left handed hitters. Sure didn't happen last night. Nate Robertson goes tonight. Been very good the last month, but very little run support.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Morneau with another "CLUTCH" two out double to knock in two runs at a key moment against the Tigers!! The MVP winner SHOULD be him or Dye depending on who makes the playoffs.... should be interesting!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Buzz,

I can go along with that theory, since we are running mates! As for you Pier, Jenks is hurt. He says he is not but he has been out since the Boston series when he blew that save. He has only blown 4 save opps all season and two of them came this week. One in Boston and one vs. Injuns. His back is bad and I could see that in the Boston game. He normally throw at around 98 and 99 with the heater and usually gets it over 100 when he is fully amped up. He was on the gun at 91 in Boston and was only at 93 last night. So this is a fact but I am not using it as an excuse, it is just a fact. The guy is hurting and would probably be on the DL in the middle of the season but with only 20 games left you know his arm would have to fall off to go onto the DL at this point. Don't try to make this out to be me making excuses, the Sox have been the most injury free team for the past two years but when a guy is hurt he is hurt, period. Windy

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

OH really......so even though yesterday Bobbi Jinx's said

Quote:

''The discomfort is gone completely in my HIP,''


Now your saying his back is bad.... confused.gif.. Interesting.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Actually, I was hoping to jinx the Sox by assuming they had the game won last night. I watched it almost to the end after my post, amazed that they blew their lead. Left right when AJ was up and came back to see he won it for them. Not real surprised, but holy cow talk about some exciting baseball this month!!!

Twins win today 2-1. Just saw Cleveland score 7 to pull within 8-10 of the SOX. Hold onto your hats!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Article on ESPN today that Johan should win MVP.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Sorry Pier or should it be inspector Clueseu, I didn't know of your keen interest in all the Sox injuries. I may have made a mistake when listing them . Jermaine Dye and Crede had the bad backs, it was Jenks hip that was bothering him. Boy did you catch me in a huge lie, it was meant to distract all you Twinkie fans, but you caught it just in time. Give yourself a big pat on the back. Back, hip, whatever, an injury is an injury and if you paid as much attention to his velocity the last two outings as you seem to his injuries or lack thereof you might have noticed that his fastball was about 7-10 miles less than usual. Let's get back to baseball and quit picking nits off of nits. Both teams win tonight 3 and 3.5 behind the Kitties that's all that counts. Windy

Oh and just so you are 100% accurate in your reporting, Jimmy Olsen, his first name is Bobby with a y. I would not want you to mislead anybody into thinking you were reffering to somebody else.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Train,

I think the sales of Pepto-Bismal and Alka-Seltzer will sky rocket in the Twin Cities the Windy City and Motown in the next three weeks. It won't hurt the sale of alcohol either! I just keep telling myself, a win is a win is a win so I guess I will close as usual...YOU CAN PUT IT ON THE BOARD...YES! Windy

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Quote:

his first name is Bobby with a y. I would not want you to mislead anybody into thinking you were reffering to somebody else.


No kidding...My sister spells hers Bobbi....who would of thunk it.

So who's right you or Bobbi Jinx's... wink.gif?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

No pepto for me, Twins have already exceeded my expectations this year. Anything they do is a huge bonus for me. We're not the the ones with the bazillion dollar payroll and something to prove.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Now Sled,

I would not call the Sox payroll huge, if that's what you're doing. The Yankees...yes Boston...yes but the Sox...no. I think they are in the middle somewhere in payroll. Compared to the Cubbies, the Sox are a steal this year with number of wins. And as for something to prove...Been there and done that already! (See last year's playoff record and results) I don't think the salaries are going to matter a lick over the next 20 games. It will be who wants it more and right now it looks like the Sox and Twinks want it a lot more than the Kitties but they have the 3 game lead so they are the hunted right now. It would not surprise me, and I said this about 2 or 3 months ago on another post that the Twinks and Sox both pass up the Kitties at the finish line and leave the Kitties crying in their beer. Windy

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

There has got to be some team that takes away the "Flop of the Century" title from my '69 Cubs! But if it means watching the WSox finish third, I'll gladly let the Cubbies keep that title.

Now, its off to watch the Pack beat the Bears, but that kinda talk will really make you guys think I'm a two-time loser in my fanatacism.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Wow!! The Tigers sure are playing good BB these days! I'm hoping we can hold this tight lead in the ninth inning today... 12-0!! Cy Santana is such a lock for Cy Young and Buster Olney of ESPN says he should even be the league MVP!! How 'bout dem apples? wink.gif

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Awesome 12-1 win over the Tigers today. Twins take 3 of 4 to pull within 2 games and 1.5 ahead of the Sox. Oakland comes to town tomorrow for a 3-game set that will be equally as tough. Let's hope we can pull off another series win!

P.S. Why can't the Twins save their 12-run games for when Silva pitches?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Gene, nice goose egg the Bears laid on the Packers today. It was a plesent sight to see, watching the pack get shut out in Lambue(sp) field. Now my team is all alone in 2nd place in the tough( grin.gif) nfc north.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Id like to see just the Tigers and Twins make it to post season from the central.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Sled, that would be the best case senario. Twins win the devision and Detroit the wildcard. Oakland would come here and Detroit would go to New York. With any luck Detroit would have a shot at the Yankees and with Liriano back, we should chop down OAKtown.

Due to a limited income(also know as having a bunch of kids),I cant get to the games very often, maybe once every year or two. But I bought some great twins tickets for cheap about two months ago when the twins were out by ten or more games. Anyway, on the 27th I will be there and cant wait. friendly

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Detroit v. Sox next weekend. Could be the last gasp for the S. Siders.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.
Sign in to follow this  
Followers 0



  • Posts

    • Hoey
      Here is a photo of the foot.  Looks like a toothy gator.  
    • BringAnExtension
      http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2017/07/21/fish-injury-island-lake/   DULUTH, Minn. (AP) — An 11-year-old girl has undergone surgery to repair damage to her foot which might have been caused by a fish in a northeastern Minnesota lake. Maren Kesselhon suffered nine deep lacerations and tendon damage when she was injured while sitting on a paddleboard on Island Lake north of Duluth Wednesday. Maren’s dad, Ryan Kesselhorn, says his daughter told him she could feel her foot in the mouth of a fish and kicked at it with her other foot to free herself. The Dickinson Press reports doctors at Essentia Health, where Maren had surgery, say the razor-sharp cuts, some down to the bone, probably were caused by a fish. Island Lake is home to large muskies and northern pike. A Duluth fisherman caught and released a 47-inch long muskie Wednesday.
    • RoosterMan
      Captain Acorn, I fish Jiggin Raps quite a bit on Vermilion, have for several years now.  I Cast em, fish them vertical and move around and cover ground at a good pace with them.  I am not sure there is any key to getting snagged less, other than knowing your spots. They are certainly an effective and a great way to catch fish.  I personally do not remove either the front or the back hook.  Believe me if you fish these your going to donate a few to the depths, just part of the game.    Good luck! - Roosterman
    • Rick
      Walleye fishing on Mille Lacs Lake will remain closed until Aug. 11 to protect the walleye fishery, and ensure its long-term health and sustainability into the future To extend the walleye fishing season through Labor Day, the state will allow for an additional 11,000 pounds of walleye harvest on Mille Lacs New solutions are being sought to rebuild and sustain a healthy Mille Lacs walleye fishery New fisheries data collected by the Minnesota Department of Natural Resources show the total safe harvest allocation for walleyes on Mille Lacs Lake (44,800 pounds) has already been exceeded this season. To protect the fishery and ensure the long-term sustainability of Mille Lacs Lake’s walleye population, the DNR announced today that walleye fishing will remain closed until Friday, Aug. 11. In order to extend the walleye fishing season through Labor Day, the state will allow for an additional 11,000 pounds of walleye harvest. Catch-and-release walleye fishing will run from Friday, Aug. 11, through Monday, Sept. 4, for the Labor Day weekend. Walleye fishing will then be closed from Tuesday, Sept. 5, through Thursday, Nov. 30. As these regulation changes were announced, Minnesota DNR Commissioner Tom Landwehr reiterated the state’s commitment to rebuilding and sustaining a healthy walleye fishery in Mille Lacs Lake. “Improving the walleye population in Mille Lacs is a top priority for the DNR,” Landwehr said. “We deeply regret the hardships these new regulations will cause for anglers and business owners. But they are essential to protect and enhance the future of walleye fishing in the lake for future generations. We will continue doing everything we can to understand the challenges facing the walleye fishery, and take whatever actions we can to resolve this very difficult situation.” Landwehr and DNR fisheries chief Don Pereira noted that allowing for additional catch-and-release fishing in August is essential for area anglers, businesses, and Mille Lacs area communities. The decision to allow for this additional harvest was made with input from the Mille Lacs Fisheries Advisory Committee. “We want to allow as much walleye fishing on Mille Lacs as possible,” Pereira said. “So even though state anglers already have caught their quota of fish, the DNR will dip into the allowed conservation overage to reopen the season on Aug. 11.” Through the closure, anglers on Mille Lacs Lake may fish for all other species in the lake including bass, muskellunge and northern pike. When fishing for other species, only artificial baits and lures will be allowed in possession, except for anglers targeting northern pike or muskie, who may fish with sucker minnows longer than 8 inches. A prohibition on night fishing will remain in place from 10 p.m. to 6 a.m. through Nov. 30. However, anglers may fish for muskie and northern pike at night, but may only use artificial lures longer than 8 inches or sucker minnows longer than 8 inches. Bowfishing for rough fish also is allowed at night but possession of angling equipment is not allowed and only rough fish may be in possession. Understanding walleye fishing quotas on Mille Lacs this year, and why that quota was reached earlier than predicted
      The DNR and the Chippewa bands that cooperatively manage Mille Lacs Lake agreed this year to harvest quotas of 44,800 pounds for state anglers and 19,200 pounds for tribal fishing. They also agreed that up to 75,000 pounds of walleye could be harvested from the lake from Dec. 1, 2016 to Nov. 30, 2017. That agreement allows the state to use a built-in buffer – the 11,000 pounds difference between the 75,000 pounds conservation cap and the 64,000 pounds combined harvest quotas – in an attempt to allow catch-and-release walleye fishing through Labor Day, following the mid-summer closure. Bi-weekly creel surveys show that state anglers already have reached their quota. “The DNR is using its full allotment to maximize opportunities to fish for walleye on Mille Lacs without violating our agreement,” Pereira said. “The DNR, just like area businesses, would greatly prefer to not have fishing restrictions in place. But sustaining and stabilizing Mille Lacs’ walleye population is our primary obligation and public responsibility.” Continuing the walleye fishing closure will reduce the number of fish that die after being caught and released, a condition known as hooking mortality. The likelihood of fish suffering hooking mortality increases as water temperatures warm. High walleye catch rates on Mille Lacs have increased DNR fishing projections. A hot walleye bite attracted more anglers to the lake, resulting in angler effort that is about double what it was in 2016. “Cooler than normal temperatures kept hooking mortality rates low, but more anglers fished Mille Lacs, particularly catching walleye longer than 20 inches,” Pereira said. “That increased the poundage of fish caught and put us over our walleye quota.” According to the DNR, bigger fish are biting, in part, because there is a shortage of food for larger walleye. Last fall’s assessment showed that larger walleye were thinner than average. Mille Lacs’ hot bite also reflects the findings of studies done in many other fisheries that show catchability actually increases when fish population drops. In Mille Lacs, walleye congregate in preferred spots rather than disperse evenly throughout the lake. Fewer fish in the lake means there is more room in the preferred spots for fish to gather, creating a situation where a larger percentage of the population is in position to be caught rather than gathering in a less preferred but less fished area. More information about Mille Lacs Lake, the regulation adjustments and management of the fishery is available on the DNR website at www.mndnr.gov/millelacslake. New solutions are being sought to improve and sustain a healthy walleye fishery
      The DNR announced in June that a new external review team of scientists will take a fresh look at Mille Lacs Lake’s walleye fishery, using all of the best science available to gain a better understanding of the lake. This new review, led by walleye expert Dr. Chris Vandergoot of the U.S. Geological Survey, will provide additional recommendations to improve fisheries management of the lake, and contribute to a long-term solution to improving and sustaining a healthy walleye fishery for future generations. The group’s report is expected in time to help guide and inform fisheries management decisions for the 2018 season. DNR encourages Minnesotans to fish for other abundant species on Mille Lacs Lake
      As today’s walleye fishing regulation changes were announced, the DNR encouraged all Minnesotans to visit Mille Lacs Lake to fish the other abundant species that the lake has to offer. Mille Lacs Lake’s other opportunities for top-notch fishing will not be affected by the regulation adjustment. Bassmaster Magazine named Mille Lacs the nation’s best bass lake in June and will send 50 of the country’s best anglers to the lake In September for its Angler of the Year tournament. Northern pike abound in Mille Lacs, along with muskellunge. In early July, a woman from southern Minnesota caught and released in Mille Lacs what may have been Minnesota’s largest-ever muskellunge. To learn more about Mille Lacs Lake and its many great fishing opportunities, visit the DNR website. To plan visit to the Mille Lacs area, visit the Mille Lacs Area Tourism Council website. Discuss below - to view set the hook here.
    • Rick
      Q: What is happening with the walleye season this summer on Mille Lacs Lake? A: The closure that began July 8 and was set to end July 28 is being extended by two weeks. That means walleye fishing will reopen at 6:01 a.m. on Aug. 11 for catch-and-release only through Labor Day. A night fishing closure also will remain in place from 10 p.m. to 6 a.m. through Nov. 30. Q: How does this affect fishing for other species? A: Fishing regulations for other species such as smallmouth bass, muskie and northern pike remain the same. During the night closure, there is an exception for muskie and northern pike anglers using artificial lures and sucker minnows longer than 8 inches. Q: Why did the DNR extend the closure? A: While the DNR wants to allow as much walleye fishing on Mille Lacs as possible, the state is also required to abide by cooperative agreements made with eight American Indian Chippewa bands. The two weeks of additional closure allows the state to abide by a harvest quota set earlier this year with the bands. The DNR and the bands agreed to harvest quotas of 44,800 pounds for state anglers and 19,200 pounds for tribal fishing. They also agreed that up to 75,000 pounds of walleye could be sustainably harvested from the lake from Dec. 1, 2016 to Nov. 30, 2017 in order to conserve the population That agreement allows the state to use a built-in buffer – the 11,000 pounds difference between the conservation cap of 75,000 pounds and the combined harvest quota of 64,000 pounds – in an attempt to allow catch-and-release walleye fishing through Labor Day, following the mid-summer closure. The latest creel survey data shows that state anglers reached their quota of 44,800 pounds of walleye caught from Mille Lacs in early July. Even though state anglers already have caught their quota of fish, the DNR is dipping into the allowed conservation reserve in order to reopen the season on Aug. 11. Q: Why has the walleye population in Mille Lacs declined? What is the DNR doing in the long-term to try to conserve the population? A: The vast majority of walleye that hatch do not survive to their third autumn in the lake. Walleye numbers have declined to the point that it has become important to protect spawning-sized walleye, particularly the class of walleye that hatched in 2013. It is important to protect the large 2013 year class to replenish aging spawning stock. Most males from the 2013 class are now mature, but females will not start to contribute in large numbers until next spring. The state is committed to conserving the population of walleyes born in 2013 to improve and rebuild a sustainable population for the future. Q: Why do we count hooking mortality during a closed walleye season? A: The amount that state anglers can kill (as spelled out in state-bands agreements) also must include fish that die as a result of hooking mortality, the fish that die after being caught and then released back into the water. During the closure, some anglers still catch walleye incidentally and some of those fish die after being released. Under the state-band agreements, those dead fish must be calculated and counted against the state’s allocation. Q: How did this cooperative management between the state and the bands of Mille Lacs Lake come to be? A: Recall that in 1999, the U.S. Supreme Court upheld lower-court decisions that allowed the Mille Lacs band and seven other Chippewa bands to exercise off-reservation fishing and hunting rights. The lower federal court also set up guidelines, known as stipulations and protocols, for both sides to follow. These stipulations and protocols provide a framework for how the bands and the state must work cooperatively to manage shared natural resources, including Mille Lacs fish. In their agreements, the DNR and the bands are required to annually establish the number of walleye that can safely be harvested from Mille Lacs while ensuring sufficient remaining walleye in the lake for a healthy fishery. Q: If the walleye population is in decline, why are anglers catching so many? A: Fish are biting for two reasons. First, there is a shortage of food for larger walleye. Last fall’s assessment showed that larger walleye were thinner than average. Second, studies in many fisheries show that catchability actually increases when fish population decline. In Mille Lacs, walleye congregate in preferred spots rather than disperse evenly throughout the lake. Fewer fish in the lake means there’s more room in the preferred spots for fish to gather, and anglers find these spots where they can catch a larger portion of fish. Finally, while the walleye population has decreased considerably (by half or more), the amount of fishing pressure has declined by a lot more. This means that there are more walleye per angler fishing Mille Lacs today. Q: How is the DNR using science and research to help the walleye population? A: Mille Lacs Lake is the most studied lake in Minnesota. It is also a complex and changing system. The agency conducts a large number of surveys on the lake annually. These surveys include assessing the abundance of young walleye; setting 52 nets to assess adult abundance; using fine-mesh nets each summer to determine abundance of food (prey fish) for walleye; and using interviews with anglers around the lake (called creel surveys) to estimate the number of fish anglers are catching. The DNR also periodically tags walleye and other species to provide actual population estimates. We are tagging bass this year in cooperation with angling groups, and will be tagging walleye in 2018 and 2019 when the 2013 year class will be reaching full maturity. Q: What is the purpose of the external review the DNR has initiated? A: The DNR has asked Dr. Chris Vandergoot to lead an independent review of the DNR’s scientific approaches to manage Mille Lacs Lake. Vandergoot is a key member of the international team that co-manages a very significant walleye fishery in Lake Erie. He works for the U.S. Geological Survey in the Sandusky Lake Erie Biological station in Ohio. His review report will be available to the public in early 2018 and will help inform fisheries management decisions for the 2018 season. Q: What does the future look like for Mille Lacs walleye? A: It is unlikely that Mille Lacs walleye production will return to the levels that state anglers enjoyed over 20 years ago. The ecosystem of Mille Lacs is going through extreme change, starting with increased water clarity in the mid-1990s, to impacts today from aquatic invasive species such as spiny water flea and zebra mussels. Longer growing seasons are also helping some species such as smallmouth bass but may be hurting others. While walleye will still be abundant, the future fishery will be more diverse, offering angling opportunities for a greater variety of fish. Discuss below - to view set the hook here.
    • bucketmouth64
      Thanks for the suggestions. I believe I'll be going with the 150 hp. My next question is trolling motor, 24/36 volt? I have a 24 volt now with a MK maxxum. I would like to get the MK Ultrex, but that has a 80lb thrust and the 36 volt comes at 112 lb. Is there a noticeable difference between the two? I noticed they come in ipilot and ipilot link. What's the difference? Not sure if I would utilize ipilot since I don't walleye fish. I use the trolling motor a lot while fishing.
    • guideman
      Maybe you need some new spots. Raised 9 fish last night in 3 hours. Hooked two boated one.   "Ace" "It's just fishing man"
    • ANYFISH2
      7/19 Day 5   Day 5 was spent celebrating my Isaacs 11th birthday!  Lots of cake and catering to him.  The exciting typical swimmimg and paddling ruled the day.  Grandma and grandpa DeZurik came up to celebrate his birthday as well.  Always nice to get both sets of grandparents together at the same time.   Fishing continued slow even more.  Still a successful night though. The birthday boy conceded his seat in the boat so grandma and grandpa cpuld join me for the evening fish trip.  My folks in all truth haven't been fishing for 2 years or more.  It was just nice to get them in the boat.   I struggled as the acting to put them on a consistent bite.  Mom as able to scratch out the biggest walleye at 17".  Dad brought home the honors of most fish caught landing a 14" and 15" walleye, 8.5" bluegill, and 2 perch as big aa his leech! I mustered up 1 small pumpkinseed.
    • ANYFISH2
      no doubt aboit the hooks, they are lottle stickers.
    • DLD24
      I like drifting with them and snap jigging them with a controlled fall...Almost every time you'll feel that tick just as it's hitting bottom... Last time I was on mille lacs that's all I could get them to go on. As far as colors I'd just match the forage Tullies in the lake use blue,purples,silvers....Perch use perch colors.. I think the jiggin rap is my new favorite way to fish, but it gets scary with them little hooks when you got a big eye on lol.