Guests - If You want access to member only forums on FM. You will gain access only when you Sign-in or Sign-Up on Fishing Minnesota.

It's easy - LOOK UPPER right menu.

  • Announcements

    • Rick

      Members Only Fluid Forum View   08/08/2017

      Fluid forum view allows members only to get right to the meat of this community; the topics. You can toggle between your preferred forum view just below to the left on the main forum entrance. You will see three icons. Try them out and see what you prefer.   Fluid view allows you, if you are a signed up member, to see the newest topic posts in either all forums (select none or all) or in just your favorite forums (select the ones you want to see when you come to Fishing Minnesota). It keeps and in real time with respect to Topic posts and lets YOU SELECT YOUR FAVORITE FORUMS. It can make things fun and easy. This is especially true for less experienced visitors raised on social media. If you, as a members want more specific topics, you can even select a single forum to view. Let us take a look at fluid view in action. We will then break it down and explain how it works in more detail.   The video shows the topic list and the forum filter box. As you can see, it is easy to change the topic list by changing the selected forums. This view replaces the traditional list of categories and forums.   Of course, members only can change the view to better suit your way of browsing.   You will notice a “grid” option. We have moved the grid forum theme setting into the main forum settings. This makes it an option for members only to choose. This screenshot also shows the removal of the forum breadcrumb in fluid view mode. Fluid view remembers your last forum selection so you don’t lose your place when you go back to the listing. The benefit of this feature is easy to see. It removes a potential barrier of entry for members only. It puts the spotlight on topics themselves, and not the hierarchical forum structure. You as a member will enjoy viewing many forums at once and switching between them without leaving the page. We hope that fluid view, the new functionality is an asset that you enjoy .
Sign in to follow this  
klw

Electrical problem?

Recommended Posts

klw

Bought a new boat this spring and I have what I believe is a problem that the dealer doesn't feel is a problem. The boat has a cigarette lighter that blows the fuses on my handheld gps when I plug it in. It also blows the fuse on both of my neighbors handheld GPS units so I know it is not my unit. The dealer that I bought the boat from says that this cigarette lighter plug is "only designed to run large items such as spotlights and puts out too much amperage to run a small GPS unit." Any ideas

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
uglystick007

Could you clarify this a little. When you say blows the fuse on the handheld do you mean inside the Handheld or the fuse on the boat. If the fuse is inside the handheld it is possible that 24v is being provided at the power plug. If it is the boat fuse then there might be something wrong with the cigarette power plug (the center contact must be moving somehow and shorting out to ground). The statement about the power plug only being for high amperage devices is false (fuses only blow when you exceed the rated amperage there is no penalty for using less power)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
klw

it blows the inline fuse in the GPS power cord. I have used the cigarette lighter for other things (12 volts air pump, 12 volt lantern) with no problems.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Jeremy airjer W

Ugl, you have peaked my curiosity. I would also like to know how many volts are coming out of the socket. With a volt meter place the postive lead on the center part of the bottom of the socket and the negative on the side of the socket. I'm stil trying to rationalize it in my head but I think that the possibility may exist that the handhelds only need roughly 3 to 4.5 volts to operate. I'm not sure where or if that conversion takes place but if the socket is trying to ram 24 volts to the GPS it may be the cause of the fuse popping. Does that make any sense? The other thing I wanted to know is if the other devices seem to run faster (air pump) or shine brighter (lantern). This would be a good inicator that the right voltage is not being supplied.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Macgyver55

I'd check the polarity first. Make sure the center of the socket is hot (battery voltage) and the outside is ground. Most small electronics are polarity protected and will blow a fuse if its not correct. Lights etc will work either way. That might explain why it doesn't affect the fuse on those.

As far as the sockets only being "only designed to run large items such as spotlights and puts out too much amperage to run a small GPS unit." Thats a bunch of malarky..........

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Surface Tension

I'd check the polarity as well.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Giant_Jackpot

I agree with Mac. The statement about running only large items is BS. If the polarity check does not turn up anything, I would replace the cig receptacle itself. This should be something the dealer should do but it might be less pain to go to Fleet Farm and get a new one and put it in yourself.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Valv

I agree with polarity check also. A light is not bothered if polarity is switched, but a GPS will.

Check underneath your dash/panel you should see a black wire connected to the outside of plug, the other color should be to the center.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Jeremy airjer W

Revers polarity!! Why didn't I think of that!!! grin.gif

If the polarity was off wouldn't the air pump run backwards?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Fishin4Life

Quote:

If the polarity was off wouldn't the air pump run backwards?


I know trolling motors do, not that I have done that before. LOL grin.gif

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Jeremy airjer W

So do blower motors in automobiles and radiator cooling fans! Not that I've ever done that! grin.gif

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Giant_Jackpot

Quote:

The dealer that I bought the boat from says that this cigarette lighter plug is "only designed to run large items such as spotlights and puts out too much amperage to run a small GPS unit."


I do not want this to turn into a dealer bashing, but since I am in the market for a new boat it would be nice to know…. Would you mind telling us who told you this?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Valv

Air pumps are just small little blowers it doesn't matter which way it turns. Lights are same it doesn't matter where's the + and - it will always light up the bulb.

Now plug in an inverter or a VCR and it will blow something, guaranteed. shocked.gif

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
BobT

The statement made by the dealer (salesperson?) is clearly a response from someone that doesn't really understand electrical circuitry.

A socket doesn't "put out" or force a specific current on the load. It's the other way around. The load will demand the amount of current it needs to operate. A properly functioning GPS will demand a very low current from the circuit. If the circuit is designed for high current loads, the GPS will not bother it at all.

Bob

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Giant_Jackpot

One should ask the dealer where he plugs in the car charger for his cell phone! grin.gif Did he have someone install a special ultra low current model for that? That really was an unbelievably poor response from the dealer……

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Valv

Quote:

One should ask the dealer where he plugs in the car charger for his cell phone!
grin.gif
Did he have someone install a special ultra low current model for that? That really was an unbelievably poor response from the dealer……


Sounds like the typical salesman answer, doesn't it.

Brrrr, stay away from such a place, sometimes I like the idea of Bill Engvall to have people wear the Stupid sign. If he was wearing it you would not have asked him the question.... grin.gif

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
klw

update.....I tested the DC voltage coming from the power point and it was -6.37 volts? the voltage at every other place on the boat I tested was 12.3 volts. I took the boat to the dealer(CP) yesterday and talked to the service manager. He said they will replace the plug in and I will bepicking it up tomorrow morning.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
HutchBucks

WHAT??? You brought it in yesterday and it'll be done tomorrow??? shocked.gif Can I cry now??? frown.gif Wish I could get some service like that...or even any....BoooHooooHoooo

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
klw

actually they (CP) just called me and it is ready for pickup today.....looks like I might have to try find a few Walleyes on gull tonight.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.
Sign in to follow this  



  • Posts

    • ib_jigged
      Really no different than using your boat.  $14,000 fish house and $14.33/year is going to kill you?? What gets me is at the lake we are at in the summer, mostly out of state people in the campground and all of their boats, never leave that lake and they are all licensed out of state and not in MN.  That is a chunk of money the state does not see.
    • Fishing Frenzy
      Great news to hear! Hopefully it will make enough tonight and hope it isn't going to get as warm as they say. Fingers crossed!
    • CLPDB
      Was hoping to come up with a 1/2 ton and a 16ft wheel house Dec. 1st.  Any thoughts if the ice will be think enough to go out of Hillmens?
    • timjones
      Took a drive around Lake Osakis earlier. It appears the cold and calm winds we had last night made a lot of ice. From what I could tell it appeared the lake was locked up except there was a small open area in Manthey's Bay that had a couple trumpeter swans swimming around and another small area in front of Holiday Resort that had some ducks swimming around. The rest was all ice, thin ice. Don't know if it will hold up over the next 5 days. High of 38 tomorrow, 46 and showers on Friday with high winds, 36 Saturday, 44 Sunday and 44 Monday. The lows over night aren't going to dip very low. If it was a few inches thick I wouldn't be to concerned, but as thin as it is, could be bad.
    • PRO-V
      Not by itself it won't but they raised the price on licenses for everything. Once you add it all up I'll bet you never got that big of a raise at your job. I paid for an ATV license since they first came out and we didn't get squat for it for over 20 years. What a joke, not to mention debacles like Mille Lacs Lake management. AAARRGGHHH!!  I gotta quit now before I pop a vein.
    • JerkinLips
      Thanks for the updates.  Think I will play it safe and wait until Thursday, November 30 to go out from McKinley Park.
    • Finnish Flash
      7" of good clear ice in the couple holes I drilled in Pike Bay this morning.   
    • cookie129
      not sure why its not showing I'm posting? Anyway walking out on the south shore gets you in deeper water quicker. Yes they do bite on red lake during the dark. I hardly ever go on the lake early ice unless Buddy Hillmen needs my help. Once I drive on the lake with blue thunder I will be on her just about everyday un  tell mid march if mother nature cooperates.
    • Roscoe010
      Can anyone recommend a place nearby the Metro Area where a person can take their air rifle to sight in the scope since you cannot shoot them in city limits.  Plus, probably not smart to just pull up to a random field to sight in, either.  Thanks!!
    • bbfenatic
      Went out early Sunday on smaller lake before the Vikes game...5" of good ice and it was growling so making more before it warmed up. Caught a bunch...pic of the dozen crappies we kept...but it was fast and furious from 7-9am