Guests - If You want access to member only forums on FM. You will gain access only when you Sign-in or Sign-Up on Fishing Minnesota.

It's easy - LOOK UPPER right menu.

Sign in to follow this  
Followers 0
Spinner1

Must Have Flies for Trout and Panfish?

8 posts in this topic

First, thanks for all the help so far guys. I have assembled most of what I need to get started. Now I need some bait. This new fly fisherman is overwhelmed by the selection of dry flies, poppers, nymphs, streamers etc. I would like to put a starter kit together for midwest stream trout (mostly stocked), and panfish. A top ten variety that works most of the season. I would like to get a few of the "must haves", and not so many that I can't buy quality flies. Problem is I can't get to a real fly shop right away. I know that is the best answer. I am going to have to order the first few online. I am finally returning from a year long Middle East military tour next month, and I want to hit the local IA streams right away, and try out my new obsession. I have zero flies right now. I will head up to MN the next month, then I will hit a real fly shop, and try to do this right. Starter books are ordered. Getting a magazine soon as well.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

As far as trout flies go, you don't really need all that many patterns to be consistently successful. My advice would be to use generic patterns to imitate spring and early summer hatches, like a Usual or Klinkhammer in sizes 12 to 16. Have a couple #18 bwo patterns too, paras or charcoal thorax duns work well. Elk-hair caddis is usually fine for caddis hatches. Those are my dryfly reccomendations.

In early summer, the wet-fly swing can really produce so I would suggest you give it a shot next year if you remember. Klinkhammers and Usuals are low-riding dry fly patterns that can also be swung wet, then pop back up to the surface dry again. That's why I suggested those particular patterns. Or you could use soft-hackles or true wets.

As for nymphs, I would have #10 or 12 and #16 Pheasant Tail nymphs, Copper Johns, Scuds in grey and olive, and a Lafontaine's Deep Sparkle Pupa. Maybe a Pink Squirrel or a Hare's Ear. Learn to use an Indicator rig.

Clousers, Sculpins and Wooly Buggers will fill the bill for streamers.

For Panfish, I would reccomend the Mcginty wet, a #10 black wooly worm, and a rust-colored wet. These are for subsurface work. Get some foam spiders for topwater use, and maybe a small cork-bodied popper.

Good luck on your endeavor, and congratulations on your return home. I would be willing to send you some of my personal best trout and sunfish flies if you would like. E-mail me a mailing address and I'd be more than happy to send a couple dozen flies to you. Esoxii@aol.com.

~hogsucker

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Kind of you to offer flies Hogsucker. I emailed you. It certainly wasn't my intent to mooch tackle here though. Just trying to form my "My Have" list.

I guess the natural follow-on question would be where does everyone suggest I mail-order/internet order flies? Who's got a good REP for quality flies?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

[Note from admin: Please read forum policy before posting again. Thank you.]

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Spinner1, I didn't recieve an email yet. Don't feel weird about accepting my flies, I just like to help out anglers new to the flyfishing arena. I tie tons of flies and sell them on occasion as well. A free selection for anyone returning from thier service in Iraq is the least I can do! ~hogsucker

~hogsucker

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hogsucker

Fair enough. Sometimes email isn't too reliable getting through the server. I'll try again, and I'll temporarily post my email here. I am going to use the address fenders53 (at) yahoo(dot)com You can hit me with email if you'd like.

And thanks again. I know this war is getting less popular by the day, but you'd never know it from the way we are treated. There is little we want for here, because somebody from back home already sent a box of it.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

#12 green flash back. For Gills, if it's yellow use it.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Favorite subsurface:

Beadhead pheasant (flashback optional), size 16 is my "go-to" fly. Some of my other favorite nymphs include some western favorites from my Colorado days, including chartruse Copper Johns, and copper and red brassies.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.
Sign in to follow this  
Followers 0



  • Posts

    • trebormorgan
      It's Thursday, March 23rd, and we're still running four wheelers on many of the lakes north of Brainerd. The panfish action was hot last weekend, especially up in the shallow spikes close to deep water. The small cold-snap that hit early in the week seemed to slow the bite and push some fish out on the breaks that lead to shallow spikes. It's a special time of year. I watched my brother release multiple slabs over 14", multiple walleyes over 20", and some nice bass, all while fishing in 5 ft of water. It doesn't happen to us often, but it last weekend it was hard to find the eater-size crappies. Almost every fish was over 13". Good times.    How's everyone else doing out there?  Any new suggestions on panfish presentations, jigs, plastics..etc?   Good luck to all that get out on the last ice, and be safe!
    • Capt. Quicksteel
      Welcome to Minnesota. I moved to the metro from way up north about 20 years ago so faced some of the same questions. Once I scouted a bunch of local WMA's I found several that didn't get much bow hunting pressure. Most days you're by yourself. But you have to be prepared for the unexpected. Once I was in a tree stand near some water. Right after sunrise I heard some shooting and shouting and a minute later a nice looking black lab ran past my stand with a mallard in his mouth! I didn't even know they were sitting in a blind down the shore from me. All in all I have had pretty good luck at finding places to hunt especially if you can go during the week.
    • Rick
      Following the pattern observed in neighboring states, white-nose syndrome, a disease that can be fatal to hibernating bats, has now been confirmed in six Minnesota counties, according to the Department of Natural Resources.  The disease has recently been confirmed in Becker, Dakota, Fillmore, Goodhue and Washington counties. Minnesota’s first confirmed case of WNS was in St. Louis County last March. The disease is named for the white fungal growth observed on infected bats. It is not known to pose a threat to humans, pets, livestock or other wildlife. The recent DNR bat surveys have recorded declines in the annual bat count ranging from 31 to 73 percent in locations where WNS has been confirmed. The 73 percent decrease was observed at Soudan Underground Mine in St. Louis County, where the disease was first confirmed in Minnesota a year ago. DNR biologists think the sharp decline there may reflect how long the disease has been present. With WNS confirmed in Fillmore County in southeastern Minnesota, the count at Brightsdale Tunnel was down 39 percent from last year, and the count at Bat River Cave decreased 31 percent. “While some locations are still testing negative, the results of recent surveys lead us to conclude that WNS is likely to be present anywhere bats hibernate in Minnesota,” said Ed Quinn, DNR natural resource program supervisor. “Four of Minnesota’s bat species hibernate, and four species migrate. WNS will have a substantial effect on Minnesota’s hibernating bat population. Neighboring states have reported declines of 70 to 95 percent in specific locations, as we recorded this year at Soudan Mine.” Although the disease is transmitted primarily from bat to bat, people can inadvertently carry fungal spores to other caves on clothing and caving gear. For several years, public tours of Soudan Underground Mine and Mystery Cave have begun with a brief lesson on how to prevent the spread of WNS. Both before and after tours, visitors are required to walk across special mats designed to remove spores from footwear, and they are advised not to wear the same clothing, footwear or gear when visiting other caves or mines where bats may be present. Multiple washings in a standard washing machine will not provide sufficient decontamination. Tours will continue at Soudan Underground Mine and Mystery Cave, where the DNR will continue to follow recommended national decontamination protocols to prevent human transport of fungal spores. The DNR urges owners of private caves to learn about WNS and take similar visitor precautions as outlined in the protocols. The DNR is working with federal and state officials to consider a variety of treatment trials, to test new fungicides that may kill WNS spores. Treatments are unlikely to eradicate WNS, but could slow the spread and reduce the number of bat deaths. DNR biologists conduct winter bat counts in several Minnesota hibernacula each year. “We use these counts to compare the number of bats in a site from year to year. Although we count all of the bats that we see, more are likely in areas we can’t reach,” said DNR mammalogist Gerda Nordquist. WNS was first documented in North America in 2007 in eastern New York and has since spread to 30 states and five Canadian provinces, killing more than 5.7 million bats. Nordquist encourages anyone who sees a sick or dead bat to submit a Bat Observation Report. DNR staff reviews these reports and additional follow-up or testing is conducted as needed. To learn more about WNS and Minnesota’s bats, visit mndnr.gov/wns. Discuss below - to view set the hook here.
    • Tom Sawyer

            Can't fix stupid! That crack, now forming a pressure ridge, about mid-lake, is plenty reason not to drive even a car out there. Won't take much to break that lake apart soon the way it was chuckin ice, especially rain. Some areas had 12". Hopefully the heavy rain stays away.
    • Neutz68
      Thinking about heading up to the Backus - Hackensack area this weekend.. How did the ice survive this week up there??