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confused.gifMy hunting buddy shot a doe fawn on Saturday. He aimed for the neck but busted the doe's brain out. We didn't see any wounds on the neck at all. When we skinned it, it had a hole going from one side of the base of the throat and out the other with fresh blood between the skin and meat. However, there was no entry or exit wounds on the skin at all. How is this possible? 1) The base of the neck is too far away from the head for the bullet to have hit both. 2) There is no entry/exit wound on the deer's neck skin but underneath the skin is an entry and exit wound in the meat. 3) The wound could not have been an old would with healed skin because of fresh blood in the fascial (sp?) tissues and it is a fawn.

The buddy was using Winchester's Ballistic Silvertip bullets in .300 Win Mag.

This is definitely one of those things which makes you scratch you head and utter the word "huhh?".

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Powerstroke

The first deer I ever shot I was making a neck shot with a 20 gauge slug. The slug entered at the base of the neck, ricochetted off of either the shoulder or the spine and deflected up the neck. The slug exited on the other side of the neck at the base of the skull. The slug traveledover 18inches within the deer's neck.

I could find an obvious hole because of the slug, but don't be concerned if you can't find your entry hole. I've had that problem before. Entry holes on rifle shots are usually quite small, especially on pointy tipped bullets.

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Gissert

Sounds like the bullet could have framented on the skull and then traveled under the skin into the neck regions.

Did you find any fragments when skinning?

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JEV

You'd be amazed at what those bullets will do when they hit hard material. I'd guess some it was caused by some type of fragmentation. Pieces of the jacket can travel all over once there is an impact.

JEV

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bigbucks

Powerstroke,

The first buck I ever shot with my 12 gauge did about the same thing, hit it about the top of the shoulder, to the front & exited somewhere near the white throat patch. He went down pretty hard, that was at about 20 yards.

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almostthere!

Didn't find any fragments. I know that that bullet turns into a gernade upon impact with bones but the holes in the neck was just too perfect (round) and penetrated both sides of the base of the throat to be fragments: however, it could still be a possibility.

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icehousebob

I shot a bear from a stand a few years ago that took a double hit. I shot it down through the top of the skull and the bullet exited the bottom of the head. I must have ricosheted off a rock in the ground because there was an entrance hole in the bottom of the chest and I found my mushroomed slug(.338 Win. Mag) in the top of the shoulder against the hide. I weighed it and it had only lost about 10 grains of lead.Sierra slugs are well made. smile.gif

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hunt4food

My buddy shot a buck with a 12ga. slug at 20 yards. The slug passed completely through the deer right behind the shoulder. As we were skinning the deer, we noticed another hole in the neck. What we found in that hole was the Sabot "wad". It actually penetrated the skin and sunk an inch or so into the flesh. He was using Winchester Partition Gold slugs.

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End of the Line

Sounds like the same bullet that killed JFK- apparently its magic! wink.gif

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