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harvey lee

Rainy river boundry question

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James_R

You have stated a few different times that U.S. citizens can go anywhere on the river and don't actually enter Canada til they set foot on shore or dock their boat. But you also say that if you're a U.S. citizen on the Canadian side and a Canadian official wants to pull up to you and question/fine/etc. you all you have to do is cross back to the "U.S." side and they can't follow. I'm wondering why the imaginary boundary down the middle doesn't apply to U.S. citizens crossing it but it does apply to Canadian officials trying to apprehend someone?

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James_R

You have stated a few different times that U.S. citizens can go anywhere on the river and don't actually enter Canada til they set foot on shore or dock their boat. But you also say that if you're a U.S. citizen on the Canadian side and a Canadian official wants to pull up to you and question/fine/etc. you all you have to do is cross back to the "U.S." side and they can't follow. I'm wondering why the imaginary boundary down the middle doesn't apply to U.S. citizens crossing it but it does apply to Canadian officials trying to apprehend someone?

I did exactly what you are describing. I got a funny look from them as they went by, but they did just that. Went right on by.

I'm not confirming the statment, but its evidence to think so.

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James_R

You have stated a few different times that U.S. citizens can go anywhere on the river and don't actually enter Canada til they set foot on shore or dock their boat. But you also say that if you're a U.S. citizen on the Canadian side and a Canadian official wants to pull up to you and question/fine/etc. you all you have to do is cross back to the "U.S." side and they can't follow. I'm wondering why the imaginary boundary down the middle doesn't apply to U.S. citizens crossing it but it does apply to Canadian officials trying to apprehend someone?

Your right to free travel on the river differs from the jurisdiction limitations placed on state and provincial LEOs when enforcing the law. They too are able to navigate both country's halves of the river like we are but that doesn't mean they can enforce Canadian laws on Minnesotan waters or vice versa.

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anchor man

Is the US/Canada border typically equal distance from both shorelines on the river? or does the boundary wander?

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outdoors247

It's right down the middle. If you are not sure I would err on the safe side if you don't purchase a Canadian license. The ticket can be quite expensive. I never got one but I know a couple people that have.

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rangerboy

Check out my post from last year. I can verify it is not right down the middle. Out of town CO's that come to help out use their gps. There are many places on the river like this, as I paid closer attention to the graph last year.

http://www.hotspotoutdoors.com/forum/ubb...int#Post2806906

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RainyRat

The border does not run down the middle of the river. If you use that as your reference, judging from one side to the other or whatever, you will be fishing in Canada in MANY locations on the river. Anyone with a gps and chip/mmc card knows this. The border is shown on lakemater and navionics chips as a red line on my Lowrance.

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Fish Head

The border does not run down the middle of the river. If you use that as your reference, judging from one side to the other or whatever, you will be fishing in Canada in MANY locations on the river. Anyone with a gps and chip/mmc card knows this. The border is shown on lakemater and navionics chips as a red line on my Lowrance.

no question about it. If you don't have a GPS chip, you don't know where that border is.

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outdoors247

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The border does not run down the middle of the river. If you use that as your reference, judging from one side to the other or whatever, you will be fishing in Canada in MANY locations on the river. Anyone with a gps and chip/mmc card knows this. The border is shown on lakemater and navionics chips as a red line on my Lowrance.

I guess you learn something new everyday. I have a few questions though. Is this something new? What did they do before the new technology (chips)? I haven't made the trip in many years but I know the last time I was up there I didn't have a graph with a chip and always erred on the side of caution and never had any troubles. It's a moot point now that I have a graph with a chip but just wondering how it was done before this newer technology.

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BartmanMN

Maybe the first question they ask is "what chip do you have in that GPS". If you answer, "I don't have a GPS", then they may give you a warning and tell you that you are over the line. If you say "2013 LakeMaster", then they will ask you why you are in Canadian water and give you a ticket.

Just hypothetical scenario.

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PerchJrkr

I love how everyone is an expert on this. How many have actually asked the canadian law about it? Im not claiming to be an expert. But i have. They dont go by GPS, they use the center of the river. And realistically they go by a 2/3 law. Unfortunately we were more like 3/4 when I had the pleasure of talking to them, and we got fined.

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