From the input meeting

[Stick in Mud]

Let mother decide what lakes become better at producing bigger fish. She did pretty good on her own for many many yrs.

Do we really need to bring moms into this thread?!?

[MontanaMax]

My point was the route through the courts is a dead end. You can't overturn the treaty, but you can use its express language. All DNR needs to manage the netting, if the Tribes won't agree to changes in dates, methods or tonnage, is to get the assistance of the President's agents. On the bright side, it looks like global cooling this spring may do more to save young walleye from the nets more than anything else. Maybe early ice out is actually to blame.

[smallie_hawgin]

MontanaMax hit it on the head...here is the treaty as it pertains to hunting,fishing etc....

ARTICLE 5.

The privilege of hunting, fishing, and gathering the wild rice, upon the lands, the rivers and the lakes included in the territory ceded, is guarantied to the Indians, during the pleasure of the President of the United States.

For starters this is not a "right" its a privilege....Also no where does it specifiy how much of anything the band is entitled to, so 50% of safe harvest is just a made up number. More importantly I don't see that it says they can excersize these privileges outside of established rules and regulations...............if Im not mistaken band members have never been refused the privilege to purchase hunting and fishing licenses just like the "rest" of us.

That aint all.... Might want to dig a little farther...

The Facts About the Treaty of 1837

The Mille Lacs Band of Ojibwe - like all Indian tribes - is a sovereign Indian nation with its own laws and its own system of government.

A treaty is an agreement between two or more sovereign nations. It is like a contract.

The federal government can make treaties with tribal governments without state approval.

In 1837, even before Minnesota was a state, the Mille Lacs Band of Ojibwe and several other tribes signed a treaty that ceded - or sold - land to the United States government. The tribes signed the Treaty of 1837 on the condition that they would still have the right to hunt, fish and gather in the ceded territory.

The Treaty of 1837 was not properly upheld. In 1990, the Mille Lacs Band was ready to sue the state of Minnesota because too many Band members were being wrongly arrested for hunting and fishing in the ceded territory. But to avoid unnecessary and unpleasant confrontations, the Band tried to settle the issue out of court.

After a challenging negotiation process, the Band and the Minnesota executive branch of government reached a settlement. That settlement was later voted down by the Minnesota Legislature, which felt that the case should be settled in court.

In June 1994, the case went to court. In the first phase of the two-part trial, a federal judge ruled in favor of the Mille Lacs Band, saying Band members still had the right to hunt, fish and gather on the ceded land. For the second phase, six other tribes that had also signed the treaty joined the Mille Lacs Band in the suit. In August 1997, a three-judge panel from the Eighth Circuit Court of Appeals reaffirmed the 1994 ruling.

On March 24, 1999, the U.S. Supreme Court upheld the Treaty of 1837, saying that Mille Lacs Band members and members of the other tribes that signed the treaty can hunt, fish and gather on the ceded land under tribal regulations.

Today’s Mille Lacs Band members, like their ancestors, are committed to protecting and preserving natural resources. That is why the Mille Lacs Band worked with the state of Minnesota to develop and implement a conservation code for the 1837 ceded territory.

The conservation code requires Mille Lacs Band members to purchase licenses from the Band’s Department of Natural Resources before they can hunt and fish on public lands in the ceded territory. It also prohibits hunting on private land in the ceded territory unless it is forest crop land. Tribal members must obtain daily permits for all spearing and netting, and these activities are closely monitored by a conservation warden and/or a biologist.

Enforcement of the conservation code is coordinated by tribal officials, the Great Lakes Indian Fish and Wildlife Commission, and conservation officers from the Minnesota Department of Natural Resources.