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PerchJrkr

we fought the law and the law won

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PerchJrkr

Well now i can tell you first hand that they do enforce that canadian border pretty well. We got nailed yesterday, the fine started at 1,500$ and went down to 600$. i dont know where they get their numbers from, but he said we were lucky that they werent the opp cause then it woulda gotten really ugly.i dont know how they picked us out either cause there was a bunch of guys around us with minnesota boats, they were nowhere to be found about 30 seconds after we got nailed....

as for the fishing report, we did really well on friday with a 30" and a 28" and boated around 100, and saturday and yesterday sucked. I think we only got about 30-40 on saturday and about 10 yesterday, they were there but for whatever reason we couldnt get em to bite! fished everywhere from up near frontier all the way to the ice!

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PerchJrkr

ohh ya, we went dukes of hazzard on a chunk of ice about a mile from the ice front on saturday. Full plane, it was pretty exciting. kicked the motor out of the water and didnt even slow us down.

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Lunger

What did they bust you for? Being over the line?

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PerchJrkr

you got it. i made the mistake of letting my buddy run the trolling motor, told him to get back over about a dozen times, waay too nice a day, and they are gonna be out.... he tried to bribe them with 31$. NICE

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spudhauler

It seems like $31 is never enough. I gotta a good laugh out of that. Maybe because I lived in Russia for a year and Bribing was the prefered means to just about any transaction. Sorry about your bad luck at the river. When I was up there on the 5th it seemed like half of the boats were over the line, but no one got busted that I saw.

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PerchJrkr

i know, why is that?

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snowman678

 Originally Posted By: PerchJrkr
i know, why is that?

They probably had the proper paperwork (RABC pass) and Ontario fishing license.

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PerchJrkr

i mean why is it that 31$ isnt enough. lol. i know none of the people around us had the paper work, cause like i said- they were nowhere to be found when the smoke cleared

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Lunger

So the fine was $600 for being over the line? I'm guessing you had live bait, beer, etc., all the stuff that you can't have.

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Chad Halvorson

We had them buzz by us Sunday too, we were pretty much smack dab in the middle but there were boats further over then us, they didnt even bother to check them. We were about 1.5 miles downriver from Vidas. Where were you when you got checked?

By the way congrats on fighting through Fridays weather, that was brutal. We were there from 5am till 5pm, it was tough for us but we caught around 30 fish (2 guys). Sunday was unreal for us, we broke 100 with 6 over 22".

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PerchJrkr

nope it was 600$ JUST for being over the line, pay now or we take your boat by the sound of it. we did have bait, no beer, but he didnt even care about that, it was just being in the country without checking in. we were a couple miles upriver from vidas. i cant beleive you got that many fish on sunday! i dont know what we were doing wrong but we couldnt hardly buy bites! i found some really good lookin spots and the fish were just stacked up in there on the vexi, but just couldnt get em to bite. The very few we caught, we never felt, it was like sturgeon- no bite just pull up and they're there.

i did catch about a 10" sturgeon, i think it was my favorite one. real spiny and armored up. very cool lookin fish!

ohh ya, i also got a sucker with a 9" lamprey on it on saturday. that was my highlight for the day

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Lunger

So you had to pay the $600 right there on the spot?

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phishupnorth

Was it $31.00 in US or Can currency? Perhaps that offended 'em. We were up a few yrs. back and had the drift sock wrapped around the prop, floated over the "line" while trying to fix the problem and got rousted by the mounties. Absolutely no sense of humor, asked me "how I cleared customs today". Boy, did some great one liners run through my head but I knew they would not find any of 'em funny. Fortunately one of the patrol had a level head and told his partner to let us go,figured we were having a bad enough day I suppose.

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bamabama1

I was up there with my kids and BIL and we took great pains to be on the right side of the river. There ain't no yellow line on the river like on Google Earth, so I erred on the side of caution. Never saw any Canadian Border patrol or CO boats(whatever they are called). Saw lots of people on the Canadian side and wondered how many were legal or not. A guy at the lodge we stayed at said a friend of his got nailed for over $3000 for being in the wrong country. At $600, you were probably pretty lucky!

We didn't have to worry about getting checked by Canada, but got checked by MN DNR. I had heard about guys from southern MN coming up and dinging you for the least infraction. These guys were from St. Cloud and I didn't even notice them until they were almost beside us. I was a bit nervous but thought I had everything in order.

My 11 year old ended up catching a fish just as we were pulling our licenses and they said to forget about the licenses and take care of the fish. I felt a little better after that. We had one that was 19" by my measurement(just the taped on ruler) and it ended up being 19 3/8". They mentioned getting a measuring device like the one they had. I was pretty nervous as I saw it lay towards the 1/2"!

We had everything until he asked for the extinguisher and throwable PFD. I didn't have them(shame on me). Figured I was getting a ticket(it was my fault). Since we had everything else, they wrote me a warning. We talked about farming a bit and the snow melt and then they left. They also gave my boys Dairy Queen coupons for having their life vests on. Nicest guys I have dealt with as far as CO officers are concerned. Seemed like regular people!

As far as fishing goes. We were rookies so we didn't do near as well as I have read on the forum. We caught about 50 total for Saturday and Sunday. Saturday morning sucked for weather. My boy caught a 36" sturgeon and can't talk about anything else. I hope we can do it next year. We were mainly fishing by the church East of Vidas. Seemed to be the place for the bigger fish for us. Biggest was 26.5".

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PerchJrkr

31$ in US currency. yep. they asked if i had 600$ cash and then asked for a credit card. i dont think they were gonna let us go until they had a payment. i thought about asking if it was 600 us or canadian... that amounts to about 75$ in us right? lol

we were right by the white church so you probably saw us get nicked!

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The Hammer

We get a remote border pass and a Canada license, we use to buy bait also,but the only legal way to say you purchased the bait in Canada is to leave it at the bait shop or dump it out. You can't bring live bait across the border. We use all plastics now anyway.It don,t make any sense in the case you are fishing the same water. Who cares where the minnows come from when it is the same water? I can only see that working when it isn't border waters.

We get checked every year for the border and this year we also got checked by the Canadian DNR. Like you said about the guys that disappeared. That happens whenever they are out. It SUCKS that they picked you out of the crowd.

Last year they said it went up to $1000.00 from $100.00 so you were lucky.I know the fine for having beer in the boat is very stiff, $175.00/can.

Now when we get checked they remember us from previous years, but they still check us. Did you have to give them a credit card number to pay the fine?

The DNR would be the one looking for bait and the O.P.P. would be the ones looking for the beer. We never get asked about bait from the border patrol.

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Northlander

Ya that imaginary line down the river is as stupid as it can be. You never see the Mn. guys out busting the Canadaians balls over it. The pay now or lose your boat is a joke as well. I suppose its so they get their money.

If you were over pay the fine. If not mark your spot on the gps and fight it in court. I also find it funny how their line doesnt always go right down the center of the river. crazy.gif

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PerchJrkr

ohh ya. i am paid in full. ya, they just mentioned that if they would of had an opp officer with them, we woulda really been screwed. No beer in the boat, but lots of minnows

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hanson

 Originally Posted By: PerchJrkr
they asked if i had 600$ cash and then asked for a credit card. i dont think they were gonna let us go until they had a payment. i thought about asking if it was 600 us or canadian... that amounts to about 75$ in us right?

Well... the exchange rate is pretty much dollar for dollar right now so it wouldn't matter US$600 or Canadian $600.

The dollar bill doesn't buy what it used to up there.

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The Hammer

They could have just picked an OPP officer up. One lives in the house east of the church and the Canada boat landing in the house with the deck with a above ground pool next to it. He also has a smoker and 2 weekends he was smoking something all weekend.

Just thought I'd warn you.

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snowman678

 Originally Posted By: hanson
 Originally Posted By: PerchJrkr
they asked if i had 600$ cash and then asked for a credit card. i dont think they were gonna let us go until they had a payment. i thought about asking if it was 600 us or canadian... that amounts to about 75$ in us right?

Well... the exchange rate is pretty much dollar for dollar right now so it wouldn't matter US$600 or Canadian $600.

The dollar bill doesn't buy what it used to up there.

Actually, right now the Canadian $ is worth more than the U.S. When I was there a week or so ago, the U.S. $ was worth 97 cents Canadian. Sure was nice a few years ago when we would get $1.30 Canadian for every $1 U.S.

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PerchJrkr

hmm. we were right in front of his house for awhile. maybe he allerted the proper authorities.

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The Hammer

I doubt it. It is my friends cousin and we fish in front of his house a lot. My buddy even told me if we saw him to go have a rye and coke with him, but you never know. Were the border guys in a small boat again this weekend? They usually launch right at that landing. We get checked right where you were every year.

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PerchJrkr

ya it was like a 14' red lund with a newer 25 hp tiller on it. sneaky sneaky

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The Hammer

Does that mean you are banned from Canada now?

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