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TwinkeeDink

"Livan, Livan likes his money"

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it wasn't a ton of $$, but what are your thoughts?? My opinion, he still throws gas and should b a solid 3 starter for the tinks. The guy throws 200 innings a year and should do fairly decent throwing strikes and letting our trademark, excellent (?) defense do the rest.

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He's a horse and durable to boot. Good pick up, he'll take pressure off the pen..

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sorry, didn't see the first thread started on this.

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But your subject line is much better!!

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 Originally Posted By: TwinkeeDink
it wasn't a ton of $$, but what are your thoughts?? My opinion, he still throws gas and should b a solid 3 starter for the tinks. The guy throws 200 innings a year and should do fairly decent throwing strikes and letting our trademark, excellent (?) defense do the rest.

He is a relative bargain as far as starting pitching goes in this day and age. He doesn't throw much "gas" anymore though. They say his fastball tops out around 85-87.

I think we are gonna see a guy that will toss alot of innings, but will also give up alot of hits and HRs.

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I think it's a good gamble.

My fear is that with the ERA approaching 5.00 in the NL, it's going to balloon even further having to constantly face Chicago, Detroit, & Cleveland. Throwing 85MPH isn't going to cut it against clubs like those with no freebie in the nine-hole.

My optimistic side says they needed someone to eat some innings, & he should be able to adequately replace Silva. Why not?

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Actually, He does not toss hard anymore -- but still can K guys on that super-slow curve.

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I've read that his stuff is a lot like Paul Byrd's.

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I think what some have said is that the innings he will eat up are the key. He won't make the team better with wins and shutouts but he will make the team better by giving the bullpen a break they will surely need with all the young arms we will be trotting out there next year.

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I am a big-time baseball and fantasy baseball junkie and Byrd isa good way to explain his stuff.

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You don't need a guy to throw 90mph+ to be effective. Sometimes hitters after seeing guys that throw 90-95mph can't hit the guys with a jello arm that top out at 85. Byrd is a good example and so is Jamie Moyer

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I think Kenny Rogers is another like that, not much for speed anymore, but can strike them out yet!

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Heard a lot of whining on the Fan. He is not an awesome signing, but I think it is a good one. Those radio guys need some cheese to go with it. ;\)

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puffy is a trick

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I think Mark Buehrle tossed a no no last year and never broke 88 mph on the gun. Maddux never gunned anybody down either. Just throw it where they can't hit it, and hit that spot every time. Though I would still rather have Nolan Ryan in a crucial game. I used to love watching Wilber Wood of the 70's White Sox staff pitch for 7 or 8 innings with his fluttering knuckle ball and then watch Goose Gossage come in to relieve him with his 100 mph cheese! Now that was a nasty combo!

Windy

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Heard a lot of whining on the Fan.

Which is why I don't listen to that [PoorWordUsage]. Professional critics & second-guessers who sit around in their mommies basements. \:\)

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Monday morning QBs that carried the water bottle.

;\)

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puffy was a bat boy. He will be worse then silva, but good pitching is hard to come by now. if he is a number 3 starter who is 1 and 2.

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Kermit --

I guess we will have to see -- i think Baker and Boof will have to pull their weight until Lirano is ready to take over the Number one spot.

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big hitter, do you think lirano will be able to log enough innings to be a number 1 starter? I dont think he will this year maybe next.

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Inning eater and some semblance of a veteran is why the twins got him...not to mention the Pohlad price!

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It won't be hard to take the 1 spot in our rotation...I think we will use him as the "#1", but won't throw over work him...the twins are notorius for easy young guns.

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I think they may have slipped him past Smilin' Carl during one of his naps. ;\)

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Livan also likes his bling.

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whoops, didnt read through the thread to see many people pointed out livan's top speed of 85

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