Guests - If You want access to member only forums on FM. You will gain access only when you Sign-in or Sign-Up on Fishing Minnesota.

It's easy - LOOK UPPER right menu.

Sign in to follow this  
Followers 0
croixeyes

Time To Switch Areas....

18 posts in this topic

Well Ive seen enough of the crowds this weekend so Im pullin up stakes and headin elsewhere on the Croix.Seems like with the bite as good as it is,the old Bayport area is takin a beating.Im not saying the fish arent still gonna be there cause they will,but I dont fare well in crowds.Plus theres to much river that isnt being explored,so Im gonna start to search for that next hot bite.Thats what I like best about fishing,The Hunt grin.gif.I guess the catching is pretty fun too though...Good Luck Out There........

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I hear you there croixeyes!! I have a shack on the river and there were people everywhere around me. Which brings up another point. Have respect for other people. I beleive the regs say you own 10 feet around you shack and people should respect at least that ten feet!!! I have had guys set up less than 6 feet from where my shack is, so i just want to say have some respect please. Good Luck everyone

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

BFD, I don't believe the 10' rule is 100% applicable on the croix, them cheesers don't have rules from what I heard (I'm kidding).. I agree the villages get crowded with folks stacked like wood, one would think (hope) common sense and courtesy would prevail rule or no rule.

Croixeyes is a whole nother story, from the little I know, he isn't happy if someone is close enough to determine the color of his truck... grin.gif

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I was out there on Saturday with the wife. It was her first time out this year and I was so mad. We drove on and made the turn to go north, all I could see was people. My spot was taken over by about 30 people all squeezed in. I saw at one point 8 shacks surrounding one permi. So we tried a new spot, and within ten min we had 5 people move right next to us. Probably didn't help that I had a monster on the ice within a few minutes. Just thought that the fair weather fisherman were very rude and didn't respect fellow fisherman.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hey guys I agree with all of the above. I will say that fishing the river system either through the ice or open water is a totally different animal. I personally fish primarily on lakes and thank god I have been able to hook up with a river rat (blue)to teach me a few things, otherwise I too would be one of those guys in a portable all bunched together. You also have to remember that a lot of these guys are probably weekend warriors and don't have or maybe want to take the time to do a little exploring so they let the crowds dictate where they fish. I know that this probably gets very frustrating for those of you that are very knowledgeable and spend a lot of time fine tuning the river but unfortunately this is what happens. I will say that I have really enjoyed learning some areas of the river and look forward to fishing it more and more throughout the years. Just my two cents.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Boy i wonder why it is so crowded????? maybe posting on a site that gets 1000's of hits a day that you are catching limits of 12+inch crappies, and then taking pictures of them next to gatorade bottles because you are so proud of yourself. The river goes in cycles the bite was this good 4 years ago but we kept it ourselves and acted like we had ACTUALLY caught fish before. Too bad it looks like the crappies will be fished out for a long time now......

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

So what does posting pictures have anything to do with people coming up and drilling a hole 5 ft from you? If you think that the river is going to be fished out then contact the DNR and tell them to drop the limit from 25 to 10.

We were not complaining about people being out on the river at all. In fact I think it’s great to see that this sport is still very popular. We are saying that it was very rude of people to fish so close to each other when there was plenty of room for everyone to fish comfortably.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

yea your right, there will be plenty of fish next year.......I doubt many people are taking 25 crappies in a day. But that many people even taking 10 will devistate the river. It never has been and never will be a place that has tons of crappies, just good size. It is a dead point anyway all these posts have killed what was a nice place to fish, now it is full of guys like your talking about drilling a holes 5ft from your shack. it is too bad.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I will agree with you on that one. It is a shame that there are people out there like that, but only a few times this winter will that happen (at least to me). If you go out there on days like today you will only find people like me and a few others that are willing to brave the cold temps. That’s when I love fishing the river. Not only is it beautiful, but its quiet, no one is driving 50 mph 10 ft from my shanty, and I can sit and enjoy what god has blessed us with.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

TRZ I feel a bit offended by you saying taking pics with fish by a bottle. I only give reports because for the longest time no one was even posting reports or anything for the Croix hardwater season. I don't see nothing wrong with reports because its not like guys will give you exact gps points. Why do you come to this site? Without reports this won't even be a fishing site. If you think winter get hits hard, try fishing when its soft water time.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Shhhhhhhh! There aren't any fish in the river. Crappies are just speckled sheepshead in disguise. Let the newbies catch a mudpuppy or two and then see if they come back. Don't get bummed by the pressure get motivated to try new spots. There are always fish to be had somewhere........just where exactly is the question.

Tunrevir~

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Ouch!!!!I really just started this post to tell you folks that its not a bad thing to go exploring when things tighten up with pressure.Fishermen catch fishermen,It has been this way before the invent of the confuser,and it will always be this way.I dont think these POSTS are the complete reason for the added pressure the Croix has received.I use to sit in the baitshop in Stillwater and listen to calls coming in,asking how the bite is on the river.Baitshops are a good resource for info like this,and Im willing to bet alot more folks than you think use this avenue to check things out.

Lets look at a couple of other things that can draw crowds to the Croix.Im sure people have felt the crunch at the gas pumps and may not want to drop a 100 bucks on gas to venture north.Maybe someone has only one day to fish out of the weekend so metro water is close.And im sure the river wasnt the only body of water getting pounded last weekend.These are a couple of contributing factors,as is posting info on a fishing forum.I think the river is healthy enough to sustain a very good population of all species of fish.Look at the area being fished,If you think that all the crappie in the river are just in those few spots,Ive got some swamp land to sell ya!!!Alright then,Im dun with my rant tired.gif

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Most of the crappies in the lower St.Croix river DO migrate to that area, if you go north you will catch very few and they are small. I'm sure the bite will die off again it always does. The reason there wasn't any reports the past 2-3 yrs is because the fishing was terrible in the winter, hence no pressure. I just wanted these boasters to know they were the reason they can no longer fish their spots because they are overrun by weekend warriors. Of course next year when you can't catch a cold it will be quiet again-it will happen-the river in the winter is all cycles and number of baitfish, even the power plant does not ahve much shad this year, and many of my bigger crappies this year have been full of sheephead-not a desirable baitfish for any species. have fun and enjoy the crowds-i won't.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Half of the fun of fishing is the exploration...It does bother me that people follow others and my fellow group of buddies are no exception to that rule.

I want to explore, but when I get outruled 6 to 1 I guess we'll all just camp where everyone else is camping and try our luck. It's more annoying when we group fish and then some body has to come sneak up right behind me or into the middle of our group and set themselves up. That's too close when you're about 10 feet away. Racking up a clamor of noise and conversing sooooo loud. Please shut the boom box!

I was elsewhere exploring, but warm weekend was like fishing tournament atmosphere. That sometimes I do better when it's frigid negative cold. Less peeps. If anything else, I'll enjoy my adventure more.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I hate to drag this conversation out any longer or to beat a dead horse but I think that there are others factors not mentioned above that cause the masses to attract to the croix. First, even though I was attending college away from hudson I still managed to fish the croix alot, and I can tell you from my personal expericence that the winter craps' bite on the croix has been consistent for me over the past five to ten years. Also I think the fact that St. Croix county has very few lakes to begin with, and the few that do exist I can tell you first hand don't rate anywhere near the croix. I don't know how many lakes are on the sota' side and there quality but I think that is a big factor why you see many WI fisherman on the croix in the winter. Other than that I agree local baitshops info and possibly a bar bragger here and there can greatly increase the number of fisherman on the croix. The river is so BIG if you don't like the crowds(I don't either) put your time in looking at your GPS or lake map and find a new honey hole, I have found them and if I can find them anyone can! One note is a wheeler or a sled is helpful in getting to those quiet honey holes. Good luck to all, I'm comin back to Hudson this weekend to find that black cloud on craps' on the croix!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

anyone heading out for an exploratory expedition friday a.m. on the st.croix in search of those beautiful white crappies and perhaps some eyes.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I think this weekend would be a good time to find some new spots because they are saying 30-40 deg. by the weekend. Get your spot early its going to be busy!!!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I am planning a thur night run. Then Sunday, if everything works out. Me and the old man should have some fun regardless. Hope everyone is having fun out there!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.
Sign in to follow this  
Followers 0



  • Posts

    • Rick
      Walleye fishing on Mille Lacs Lake will remain closed until Aug. 11 to protect the walleye fishery, and ensure its long-term health and sustainability into the future To extend the walleye fishing season through Labor Day, the state will allow for an additional 11,000 pounds of walleye harvest on Mille Lacs New solutions are being sought to rebuild and sustain a healthy Mille Lacs walleye fishery New fisheries data collected by the Minnesota Department of Natural Resources show the total safe harvest allocation for walleyes on Mille Lacs Lake (44,800 pounds) has already been exceeded this season. To protect the fishery and ensure the long-term sustainability of Mille Lacs Lake’s walleye population, the DNR announced today that walleye fishing will remain closed until Friday, Aug. 11. In order to extend the walleye fishing season through Labor Day, the state will allow for an additional 11,000 pounds of walleye harvest. Catch-and-release walleye fishing will run from Friday, Aug. 11, through Monday, Sept. 4, for the Labor Day weekend. Walleye fishing will then be closed from Tuesday, Sept. 5, through Thursday, Nov. 30. As these regulation changes were announced, Minnesota DNR Commissioner Tom Landwehr reiterated the state’s commitment to rebuilding and sustaining a healthy walleye fishery in Mille Lacs Lake. “Improving the walleye population in Mille Lacs is a top priority for the DNR,” Landwehr said. “We deeply regret the hardships these new regulations will cause for anglers and business owners. But they are essential to protect and enhance the future of walleye fishing in the lake for future generations. We will continue doing everything we can to understand the challenges facing the walleye fishery, and take whatever actions we can to resolve this very difficult situation.” Landwehr and DNR fisheries chief Don Pereira noted that allowing for additional catch-and-release fishing in August is essential for area anglers, businesses, and Mille Lacs area communities. The decision to allow for this additional harvest was made with input from the Mille Lacs Fisheries Advisory Committee. “We want to allow as much walleye fishing on Mille Lacs as possible,” Pereira said. “So even though state anglers already have caught their quota of fish, the DNR will dip into the allowed conservation overage to reopen the season on Aug. 11.” Through the closure, anglers on Mille Lacs Lake may fish for all other species in the lake including bass, muskellunge and northern pike. When fishing for other species, only artificial baits and lures will be allowed in possession, except for anglers targeting northern pike or muskie, who may fish with sucker minnows longer than 8 inches. A prohibition on night fishing will remain in place from 10 p.m. to 6 a.m. through Nov. 30. However, anglers may fish for muskie and northern pike at night, but may only use artificial lures longer than 8 inches or sucker minnows longer than 8 inches. Bowfishing for rough fish also is allowed at night but possession of angling equipment is not allowed and only rough fish may be in possession. Understanding walleye fishing quotas on Mille Lacs this year, and why that quota was reached earlier than predicted
      The DNR and the Chippewa bands that cooperatively manage Mille Lacs Lake agreed this year to harvest quotas of 44,800 pounds for state anglers and 19,200 pounds for tribal fishing. They also agreed that up to 75,000 pounds of walleye could be harvested from the lake from Dec. 1, 2016 to Nov. 30, 2017. That agreement allows the state to use a built-in buffer – the 11,000 pounds difference between the 75,000 pounds conservation cap and the 64,000 pounds combined harvest quotas – in an attempt to allow catch-and-release walleye fishing through Labor Day, following the mid-summer closure. Bi-weekly creel surveys show that state anglers already have reached their quota. “The DNR is using its full allotment to maximize opportunities to fish for walleye on Mille Lacs without violating our agreement,” Pereira said. “The DNR, just like area businesses, would greatly prefer to not have fishing restrictions in place. But sustaining and stabilizing Mille Lacs’ walleye population is our primary obligation and public responsibility.” Continuing the walleye fishing closure will reduce the number of fish that die after being caught and released, a condition known as hooking mortality. The likelihood of fish suffering hooking mortality increases as water temperatures warm. High walleye catch rates on Mille Lacs have increased DNR fishing projections. A hot walleye bite attracted more anglers to the lake, resulting in angler effort that is about double what it was in 2016. “Cooler than normal temperatures kept hooking mortality rates low, but more anglers fished Mille Lacs, particularly catching walleye longer than 20 inches,” Pereira said. “That increased the poundage of fish caught and put us over our walleye quota.” According to the DNR, bigger fish are biting, in part, because there is a shortage of food for larger walleye. Last fall’s assessment showed that larger walleye were thinner than average. Mille Lacs’ hot bite also reflects the findings of studies done in many other fisheries that show catchability actually increases when fish population drops. In Mille Lacs, walleye congregate in preferred spots rather than disperse evenly throughout the lake. Fewer fish in the lake means there is more room in the preferred spots for fish to gather, creating a situation where a larger percentage of the population is in position to be caught rather than gathering in a less preferred but less fished area. More information about Mille Lacs Lake, the regulation adjustments and management of the fishery is available on the DNR website at www.mndnr.gov/millelacslake. New solutions are being sought to improve and sustain a healthy walleye fishery
      The DNR announced in June that a new external review team of scientists will take a fresh look at Mille Lacs Lake’s walleye fishery, using all of the best science available to gain a better understanding of the lake. This new review, led by walleye expert Dr. Chris Vandergoot of the U.S. Geological Survey, will provide additional recommendations to improve fisheries management of the lake, and contribute to a long-term solution to improving and sustaining a healthy walleye fishery for future generations. The group’s report is expected in time to help guide and inform fisheries management decisions for the 2018 season. DNR encourages Minnesotans to fish for other abundant species on Mille Lacs Lake
      As today’s walleye fishing regulation changes were announced, the DNR encouraged all Minnesotans to visit Mille Lacs Lake to fish the other abundant species that the lake has to offer. Mille Lacs Lake’s other opportunities for top-notch fishing will not be affected by the regulation adjustment. Bassmaster Magazine named Mille Lacs the nation’s best bass lake in June and will send 50 of the country’s best anglers to the lake In September for its Angler of the Year tournament. Northern pike abound in Mille Lacs, along with muskellunge. In early July, a woman from southern Minnesota caught and released in Mille Lacs what may have been Minnesota’s largest-ever muskellunge. To learn more about Mille Lacs Lake and its many great fishing opportunities, visit the DNR website. To plan visit to the Mille Lacs area, visit the Mille Lacs Area Tourism Council website. Discuss below - to view set the hook here.
    • Rick
      Q: What is happening with the walleye season this summer on Mille Lacs Lake? A: The closure that began July 8 and was set to end July 28 is being extended by two weeks. That means walleye fishing will reopen at 6:01 a.m. on Aug. 11 for catch-and-release only through Labor Day. A night fishing closure also will remain in place from 10 p.m. to 6 a.m. through Nov. 30. Q: How does this affect fishing for other species? A: Fishing regulations for other species such as smallmouth bass, muskie and northern pike remain the same. During the night closure, there is an exception for muskie and northern pike anglers using artificial lures and sucker minnows longer than 8 inches. Q: Why did the DNR extend the closure? A: While the DNR wants to allow as much walleye fishing on Mille Lacs as possible, the state is also required to abide by cooperative agreements made with eight American Indian Chippewa bands. The two weeks of additional closure allows the state to abide by a harvest quota set earlier this year with the bands. The DNR and the bands agreed to harvest quotas of 44,800 pounds for state anglers and 19,200 pounds for tribal fishing. They also agreed that up to 75,000 pounds of walleye could be sustainably harvested from the lake from Dec. 1, 2016 to Nov. 30, 2017 in order to conserve the population That agreement allows the state to use a built-in buffer – the 11,000 pounds difference between the conservation cap of 75,000 pounds and the combined harvest quota of 64,000 pounds – in an attempt to allow catch-and-release walleye fishing through Labor Day, following the mid-summer closure. The latest creel survey data shows that state anglers reached their quota of 44,800 pounds of walleye caught from Mille Lacs in early July. Even though state anglers already have caught their quota of fish, the DNR is dipping into the allowed conservation reserve in order to reopen the season on Aug. 11. Q: Why has the walleye population in Mille Lacs declined? What is the DNR doing in the long-term to try to conserve the population? A: The vast majority of walleye that hatch do not survive to their third autumn in the lake. Walleye numbers have declined to the point that it has become important to protect spawning-sized walleye, particularly the class of walleye that hatched in 2013. It is important to protect the large 2013 year class to replenish aging spawning stock. Most males from the 2013 class are now mature, but females will not start to contribute in large numbers until next spring. The state is committed to conserving the population of walleyes born in 2013 to improve and rebuild a sustainable population for the future. Q: Why do we count hooking mortality during a closed walleye season? A: The amount that state anglers can kill (as spelled out in state-bands agreements) also must include fish that die as a result of hooking mortality, the fish that die after being caught and then released back into the water. During the closure, some anglers still catch walleye incidentally and some of those fish die after being released. Under the state-band agreements, those dead fish must be calculated and counted against the state’s allocation. Q: How did this cooperative management between the state and the bands of Mille Lacs Lake come to be? A: Recall that in 1999, the U.S. Supreme Court upheld lower-court decisions that allowed the Mille Lacs band and seven other Chippewa bands to exercise off-reservation fishing and hunting rights. The lower federal court also set up guidelines, known as stipulations and protocols, for both sides to follow. These stipulations and protocols provide a framework for how the bands and the state must work cooperatively to manage shared natural resources, including Mille Lacs fish. In their agreements, the DNR and the bands are required to annually establish the number of walleye that can safely be harvested from Mille Lacs while ensuring sufficient remaining walleye in the lake for a healthy fishery. Q: If the walleye population is in decline, why are anglers catching so many? A: Fish are biting for two reasons. First, there is a shortage of food for larger walleye. Last fall’s assessment showed that larger walleye were thinner than average. Second, studies in many fisheries show that catchability actually increases when fish population decline. In Mille Lacs, walleye congregate in preferred spots rather than disperse evenly throughout the lake. Fewer fish in the lake means there’s more room in the preferred spots for fish to gather, and anglers find these spots where they can catch a larger portion of fish. Finally, while the walleye population has decreased considerably (by half or more), the amount of fishing pressure has declined by a lot more. This means that there are more walleye per angler fishing Mille Lacs today. Q: How is the DNR using science and research to help the walleye population? A: Mille Lacs Lake is the most studied lake in Minnesota. It is also a complex and changing system. The agency conducts a large number of surveys on the lake annually. These surveys include assessing the abundance of young walleye; setting 52 nets to assess adult abundance; using fine-mesh nets each summer to determine abundance of food (prey fish) for walleye; and using interviews with anglers around the lake (called creel surveys) to estimate the number of fish anglers are catching. The DNR also periodically tags walleye and other species to provide actual population estimates. We are tagging bass this year in cooperation with angling groups, and will be tagging walleye in 2018 and 2019 when the 2013 year class will be reaching full maturity. Q: What is the purpose of the external review the DNR has initiated? A: The DNR has asked Dr. Chris Vandergoot to lead an independent review of the DNR’s scientific approaches to manage Mille Lacs Lake. Vandergoot is a key member of the international team that co-manages a very significant walleye fishery in Lake Erie. He works for the U.S. Geological Survey in the Sandusky Lake Erie Biological station in Ohio. His review report will be available to the public in early 2018 and will help inform fisheries management decisions for the 2018 season. Q: What does the future look like for Mille Lacs walleye? A: It is unlikely that Mille Lacs walleye production will return to the levels that state anglers enjoyed over 20 years ago. The ecosystem of Mille Lacs is going through extreme change, starting with increased water clarity in the mid-1990s, to impacts today from aquatic invasive species such as spiny water flea and zebra mussels. Longer growing seasons are also helping some species such as smallmouth bass but may be hurting others. While walleye will still be abundant, the future fishery will be more diverse, offering angling opportunities for a greater variety of fish. Discuss below - to view set the hook here.
    • bucketmouth64
      Thanks for the suggestions. I believe I'll be going with the 150 hp. My next question is trolling motor, 24/36 volt? I have a 24 volt now with a MK maxxum. I would like to get the MK Ultrex, but that has a 80lb thrust and the 36 volt comes at 112 lb. Is there a noticeable difference between the two? I noticed they come in ipilot and ipilot link. What's the difference? Not sure if I would utilize ipilot since I don't walleye fish. I use the trolling motor a lot while fishing.
    • guideman
      Maybe you need some new spots. Raised 9 fish last night in 3 hours. Hooked two boated one.   "Ace" "It's just fishing man"
    • ANYFISH2
      7/19 Day 5   Day 5 was spent celebrating my Isaacs 11th birthday!  Lots of cake and catering to him.  The exciting typical swimmimg and paddling ruled the day.  Grandma and grandpa DeZurik came up to celebrate his birthday as well.  Always nice to get both sets of grandparents together at the same time.   Fishing continued slow even more.  Still a successful night though. The birthday boy conceded his seat in the boat so grandma and grandpa cpuld join me for the evening fish trip.  My folks in all truth haven't been fishing for 2 years or more.  It was just nice to get them in the boat.   I struggled as the acting to put them on a consistent bite.  Mom as able to scratch out the biggest walleye at 17".  Dad brought home the honors of most fish caught landing a 14" and 15" walleye, 8.5" bluegill, and 2 perch as big aa his leech! I mustered up 1 small pumpkinseed.
    • ANYFISH2
      no doubt aboit the hooks, they are lottle stickers.
    • DLD24
      I like drifting with them and snap jigging them with a controlled fall...Almost every time you'll feel that tick just as it's hitting bottom... Last time I was on mille lacs that's all I could get them to go on. As far as colors I'd just match the forage Tullies in the lake use blue,purples,silvers....Perch use perch colors.. I think the jiggin rap is my new favorite way to fish, but it gets scary with them little hooks when you got a big eye on lol.
    • DLD24
      Fished Big Sandy from 8-2 today and got 10 eyes (no keepers) keeper crappie and perch.... Marked tons of fish, but it was tough to get them to go, Lindy rig with a half crawler was the best by far. I tried leeches,jigging rap, jig n plastic. Points and reefs were the spots, later in the day a lot of fish were off the edges of the reefs... Just one day this year I'd like a happy medium weather wise, either I'm in 4ft rollers or 90 degrees with zero wind haha.
    • Garmandu
      According to Al Linder you can do it all with them...on his video that I watched a while back he was in deeper water throwing into 15 feet and working it back to the boat.  I have not tried it yet but will have to sometime this year.  Sand or gravel bottom would be the best.
    • ANYFISH2
      Just started playing with these this week as a friend has been have goos luck all summer with them on the Cass lake chain. I have not any success yet but not real sure on the best way to use them with my set this week.  My friend searches pods of fish out with electronics then spot locks and vertical jigs. I have no electronics or spot lock so I have been control drifting and jigging.   My questions...   Is there a depth they work better in, shallow vs. deeper?   Better vertically jigged vs trolled vs casted and jigged?   prime colors? of course my be lake dependent.   typically, aggressive jigging vs subtle jigging?   Thanks for tips