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Please answer this Johnny P or KellyP

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This may be a different question but where I am from (Mankato) I get alot of crappies on small jigs with euro larvae or wax worms. Do people ever sub those types of small bait in there. If not ....why?? Thank you!

Any thoughts from anybody out there. Not just limited to Johnny and Kelly I just wanted their advice for sure!!

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Upper Red Lake is a stained water lake. This of course make visability limited even for the most advanced aqautic predators. Vibration/sound is one of the main targeting senses of Upper Red Lake fish and a waxie does not do to much in the vibration catagory where as a minnow tail hooked tends to send out a hum that screams "all you can eat buffet".

Some fish will be caught on waxies and bugs (I even use micro nymphs from time to time) but a minnow will out fish it every time.

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Jonny are you hooking your crappie minnows and fatheads through the dorsal or in the bung and out the side? On crappie minnows I find bung hole and out the side works best. Your thoughts?

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I go in the base of the tail and straight out the top. Wiggle and shake with the perfect 45* attack angle.

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I always use euros on Red and do as good if not better than my fishing buddies using minnows....I like to stack atleast 3 on a spoon and of course jig and make those marks follow.....The nice thing is that when the craps are under you you can catch them and get back down without rebaiting....Also like to take a ratso and add 1 euro.....that has also produced well in the past.....minnows are a must have but I always have a can of euros with!! P.S they are hard to find around the lake so buy before you come up...unless Dr Tackle carries the, which he probably does.

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I've had both larvae and waxies along and at times have tried them without much luck. Every so often there will be a post that the perch hit better on them but I've not seen the evidence but that could be "user error"!

Along the lines of the original post, I also seem to do better in the metro area on waxies on real small jigs for crappies and my first time to URL I went with the real small jigs and got smoked. I did manage to catch an 8-9 lb northern on one of those little jigs and a number of walleyes but while the rest of the house was catching some crappie I would miss every one when setting the hook. After posting on this site, it was recommended to basically fish with larger setups since the URL slabs are so large that walleye type sized gear was the norm. I made that switch and at least have a few URL slabs to my credit now. Last year I downsized a bit when the fishing wasn't great and it may have helped some but I didn't go as small as I would in the metro.

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Back in the day of easy crappies we used waxworms often and did well. The biggest problem was the very small hook and the huge crappie. Lots were lost but it didn't matter, unless it was a 2 pounder and you saw it. You could jig the crappies up and almost always they would crack and take the bait. The last 3-4 yrs we haven't tried much because it hasn't worked very well. You can certainly jig them up with a jig and minnow also if they're in the mood. The hard part is landing where they are; the harder you work the luckier you get (sometimes). It's good to have a couple of young guys along. Stan C.

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When the fish are active, it almost doesn't matter what you throw down, but I have had some times where they just didn't want anything to do with a minnow, regardless of the jig it was on. These times were when bringing the waxies paid off. Just putting one on a size 12 red glow teardrop jig caught lot's of crappies; it just took me a while to find what they wanted. That set up has caught me fish on a few occassions where everything else was a no go. Just my 2 cents.

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This past weekend I thought the crappies were in a slow to no go mood. I was trying everything I could think of until I finally tried a tiny green teardrop rig with just a crappie minnow head. I finally got a few to pound it. This was on a local lake not URL.

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