Guests - If You want access to member only forums on FM. You will gain access only when you Sign-in or Sign-Up on Fishing Minnesota.

It's easy - LOOK UPPER right menu.

  • Announcements

    • Rick

      1st Please Post Your Fishing Report - Then Join the NEW - Private Fishing Report Clubs   01/24/2018

      Private Fishing Report Clubs - Click Here - Post Your Fishing Report Before Joining
      1st, be sure you post a fishing report in the forums, then ask to join after you post a fishing report in your area forum. The Private Fishing Report Clubs are where folks can share private fishing information with club members who have proven they know what's going on. Fishing Report Clubs Link also in Menu above. Apply to become a member today, while it's still easy. 
  • RECEIVE THE GIFTS MEMBERS SHARE WITH YOU HERE...THEN...CREATE SOMETHING TO ENCHANT OTHERS THAT YOU WANT TO SHARE

    You know what we all love...

    When you enchant people, you fill them with delight and yourself in return. Have Fun!!!

  • 0
Sign in to follow this  
Dahitman44

Action is better but kinda strange too

Question

Dahitman44

I have had the bites pick up in the last couple of days. Has anyone else seen that?

But while the bites are increasing, the fish are harder to catch.

Between three times out -- two night and a morning we have had about 14 bites and zero fish. The minnows have been beaten up pretty badly or gone.

A buddy of mine is seeing the same thing.

We have fed them line and hit them right away. Nothing seems to get them to stick.

Any thoughts?

Anyone else seeing this?

Hit.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

30 answers to this question

Recommended Posts

  • 0
Paul

tis the reason god created stinger hooks.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
  • 0
Dahitman44

Pauly --

R U kiddin me?

Do you use them in the winter? I have never tried that in the winter. Which ones do you use? Have they worked?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
  • 0
Paul

I have only used them on Devils Lake with pike rigs fishing with frozen smelt.

I tired som ereally small ones that hooked on to the back of a jig once and I got a few extra fish but getting the stinger out is hard some times.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
  • 0
gonefishin11

Hit,

Use only half a minnow. I had the same problem until I started cutting the minnow in half.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
  • 0
DEADhead

I know you like your LE buddies hitman, but here's one to keep you out of trouble in MN:

http://ros.leg.mn/bin/getpub.php?pubtype=STAT_CHAP_SEC&year=2007&section=97C.315

97C.315, Minnesota Statutes 2007

Copyright © 2007 by the Office of Revisor of Statutes, State of Minnesota.

97C.315 ANGLING LINES AND HOOKS.

Subdivision 1. Lines. An angler may not use more than one line except:

(1) two lines may be used to take fish through the ice; and

(2) the commissioner may, by rule, authorize the use of two lines in areas designated by

the commissioner in Lake Superior.

Subd. 2. Hooks. An angler may not have more than one hook on a line, except:

(1) three artificial flies may be on a line used to take largemouth bass, smallmouth bass,

trout, crappies, sunfish, and rock bass;

(2) a single artificial bait may contain more than one hook; and

(3) as otherwise prescribed by the commissioner.

History: 1986 c 386 art 3 s 25; 1991 c 259 s 23; 2006 c 281 art 2 s 48

For legal definitions, the two hooks on a quick strike rig are not considered a "single artificail bait". They are currently in the works of trying to make quick strike rigs legal in MN, but at this point in time, they are not legal to use in MN.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
  • 0
DEADhead

yeah minnow heads are deadly. that's why I don't use a whole minnow on a spoon, otherwise the fish strike and miss all the time. good tip gonefishin11

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
  • 0
dragon81

I fish Lake of the woods a lot but it should be the same all over.

The last two years I have taken a Kastmaster or Rapala flyer type jig, take the treble hook off the bottom and hook a stinger treble hook there instead. I guess its just called a dropper Rig, (thats what we call it) Or tie your own about five inches below the lure. I have never caught more fish jigging then last year doing this. glow Rapala is the best.

But I should add that its been slow this year so far... But still more fish on the Kastmaster then a regular jig or dead stick. And always use the vexilar !!!!!!!!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
  • 0
dragon81

Oh yeah I forgot, I always cut the minnow in half with my fingers, not a knife (god only knows but it works better) then attach both ends to the treble hook. dont miss many when they hit....

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
  • 0
giwoyna5

Boy, I'm sure glad we have you around DEADhead!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
  • 0
Dahitman44

GF and Dead --

Good points. I use the head and can't get them to hit. Thatc is my most effective jig action that is for sure. But they seem to want to hit the whole minnow on the spoon.

Some of the other problems come with the bobboer or rattle wheel. They seem to hit these more than the spoon and we lose them.

???

Thoughts?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
  • 0
Dahitman44

Dragon -- I rip the bait as well -- much better option.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
  • 0
Dahitman44

Dead --

So all "stinger" hooks with live bait is against the law?

Really?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
  • 0
Paul

Try a Hal's Rocker Jig. It is a spoon with a chain on it that hangs the hook a 1" or so below the spoon. Great Panny rig.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
  • 0
DEADhead

hit,

If the stinger hook is not part of an artificial lure (like a rapala) then it is not legal. I think a crawler harness is deemed legal because there is typically a spinner blade in line with the harness. If you were to take the spinner off and just use the harness, it would then be considered a quick strike rig. I know some anglers have tried to skirt around the issue and put some beads in line with the hook to constitute the setup as a "lure". I don't think enforcement has agreed with their line of thinking though.

My advice would be to hold off on these rigs until the rules get passed, hopefully in the 2008 legislative session.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
  • 0
dragon81

Wow!!!!! thats news to me. We even explained that set up to a C.O. and he seemed to think it was O.K. Maybe we didnt explain it the right way or something. Better watch myself then.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
  • 0
perch_destroyer

Cliffy, if you read this, pay special close attention to what DeadHead is saying. I had a special conversation with the Pike Pickler about this very topic at the GTG'r on HOL. the Perch

p.s. - When you coming back to work? Not that i miss you, just, you seem to be enjoying all of your free time and i have to put in 10 hrs a day.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
  • 0
DEADhead

All, this is just my interpretation of the rule and what constitutes as a quick strike rig. Don't take what I say as gospel, but I believe it to be true to the best of my knowledge. In the end the CO and the judge have the final say.

Maybe Rob Kimm can chime in on this one, as I think he knows more about the legalities of quick strike rigs than I do.

All I know, is that they are trying to legalize quick strike rigs, and it is in the rules package for 2008, yet to be approved by the legislature.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
  • 0
Dahitman44

Yeah --

Rob Kimm where are you? You have been a little quiet this year.

Cheers,

Hitman ;\)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
  • 0
stezoman

Northland makes a jig with a short stinger pre-rigged on a second eye on the bottom of the jig. They work pretty well for short striking fish. It's pre-manufactured and should fall under the "one lure" rule. You can also buy the double eyed jigs in bulk if you want to save a little money and rig the stinger yourself. Your best bet is to read and interpret the regulation for yourself. If you can show the regulation that lead you to believe you were within the law, the crappie cops will generally let it slide.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
  • 0
stezoman

The other suggestion I could give is to downsize, downsize, downsize. If they want a whole minnow, go smaller; maybe even a croppie minnow. They have been sleying eyes on croppie minnows for a couple years now up on Red Lake. Get your line down to 6 or 4 pound test. Go with a 1/32 or 1/64 oz. jig; maybe even an ice fly. It's been a week or so since I've been out, but I'll give it a try this week sometime.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
  • 0
Bison9

Let me chime in on this convo if I may. I grew up fishing the rivers in Wisconsin as a kid. In those bodies of water, no stinger = no fish! Literally! I went back there this Spring to do some river fishing and was talking all this trash about not needing a stinger. Yeah, my Dad and his buddy were out fishing me about 6 fish to 1 until I switched to that stinger. It worked wonders.

Anyways, this is not the main part of this post however. The thing I want to add here is that when we tie our jig on our line, we have always left a lot of line on the "tag" that is left over after pulling the knot tight. You then would use the line on that "tag" to tie a trebble hook onto and then that trebble hook goes behind the minnow's dorsel fin (after he is hooked through the lips of course on the main hook as well). We learned this little trick back in the day when the Old Man and I went Wisconsin river fishing with Larry Smith, the guide that shows up on Gillespie's show a lot on Saturday morning...

My $2.00 worth for the day!

Oh yeah, my buddy and I may hit LOW this weekend or next. A little bird told me the action is pretty dern good up there right now. Yeah to the weekend warriors!! Good Luck all!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
  • 0
Bison9

Oh yeah, let me also add, I only do this in Wisco - not in MN or ND. I stay legal!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
  • 0
Dahitman44

Thanks, Bison.

Tease me then remind me that it is against the law.

Great.

;\)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
  • 0
Bison9
\:\)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
  • 0
Cicada

I kind of think the stinger on a jig is legal. Isn't a jig considered a lure? Doesn't Northland Tackle sell jigs in Minnesota that have stingers with them?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.
Sign in to follow this  



  • Your Responses - Share & Have Fun :)

    • Rick
      Minnesota fishing, hunting and trapping licenses for 2017 expire Wednesday, Feb. 28, according to the Minnesota Department of Natural Resources.  Licenses for 2018 are now available wherever hunting and fishing licenses are sold, online at mndnr.gov/buyalicense and by telephone at 888-665-4236. All 2018 fishing licenses become effective Thursday, March 1. New licenses are required for 2017 hunting and fishing seasons that continue past Feb. 28. This year license fees increase by $3 for a resident individual angling license, and fees also increase for other license types including deer hunting licenses, sports licenses and lifetime licenses. License fees support the ongoing work of DNR fish, wildlife and enforcement staff to conserve, enhance and protect our waters, fields and forests. “Thank you to all who purchase a license. License fees pay for the work we do and the dollars go directly toward improving fishing and hunting opportunities in Minnesota,” said Steve Michaels, DNR licensing program director. Customers who purchase online via a smartphone won’t receive a conventional paper license. Instead, they’ll receive a text message or email that serves as proof of a valid fish or game license to state conservation officers. A printed copy of the text or email also can serve as proof of a valid license. Customers are encouraged to update their customer record online at mndnr.gov/buyalicense. Adding an email, while not required, allows the DNR to send important hunting and fishing information, and gather input through surveys. More information about how the DNR spends license dollars can be found at mndnr.gov/LicenseDollarsAtWork. Discuss below - to view set the hook here.
    • Rick
      A youth paired with an adult can join other youth-adult pairs to learn the basics of fly fishing from experienced instructors from evening on Friday, April 27, to afternoon on Sunday, April 29, near Lanesboro.  “Youth and adults in these classes are both beginners so they can learn to fly fish together,” said Deb Groebner, a regional specialist with MinnAqua, an educational program of the Department of Natural Resources. “When they finish the weekend, they’ll be ready to take on more fishing adventures for a variety of species.” To participate, youth must be 11 to 17 years old as of April 27, and adult and youth must each have less than 5 hours of fly-fishing experience. The registration fee is $130 per pair and includes meals, lodging, guiding services, equipment and additional materials. Sponsorships to offset registration fees may be available from angling and conservation organizations. This event is limited to 20 youth-adult pairs. Apply online. For more information, contact Groebner at 507-359-6049 or deborah.groebner@state.mn.us. Discuss below - to view set the hook here.
    • nytelyter
      how is the ice should i bring four wheeler or is half ton truck good to go??  
    • nytelyter
      So l@@king to saturday. i will be sporting the new otter lodge xt pro modded out and way ready to go will have my 8" lazer on the new 40v strikemaster and may bring the 3hp power head as well. my girlfriend will be coming and she is stoked for the fun time. thanks everyone for the awesome prizes and also the pre-fishing. will be checking the forum before saturday for updated info. has anyone volunteered to bring a garbage can or two along with some bags yet?? if not i can handle that i will bring some chips and a pan of mounds bars for lunch oh some "pie"  this event always has to have "pie"                         ' Born to Fish. Forced to Work  
    • trro0901
      Just hauled our shack out last weekend, didn't get a bite.  Graphed some, but no takers, could have just been the weather, or tactics, ha.  Haven't really fished the lake much in the winter, figured we should seeing it's a half mile from home. 
    • nytelyter
      i do plan on being there and hopefully a bit early.  
    • Fathom
      Set up deeper on rock reef for the rest of the weekend and only managed one fish (26" eye), missed a couple others. We wanted to stay deeper due to all the traffic on the lake. We did enjoy a good time at Fishing for Ducks, we saw a nice walleye pulled through the ice but it only measured 27.5". Talk about a bummer for that guy!
    • Jarrid Houston
      Roads to the islands always need to be taken very cautious and I would encourage going with someone who knows the area..  I believe they were shutting down the highway H extension due to this recent weather we just got?  Plenty of fish and opportune situtations in the bay.
    • cookie129
      Another crazy busy weekend is in the books. I really enjoy giving out my fishing/what's happening on the lake reports but finding the time has been tough. To say its a grind is a understatement.
       I can tell you again as the season winds down I'm never ready for it to end, as I truly love being out there in my trucks, moving houses, plowing the  hillmen highway, giving advise, helping other fishermen when they do something silly, Driving into a snow bank, dropping there gun down a hole or any other important object like there keys. Every year all the workers seem to get a little grumpy as fighting mother nature, going from sun up to sunset takes a toll physically and mentally. It also seems I ruffle a few feathers every year and its never my intent  so I have to chalk it up as a long season. If I stepped on anyone's toes it sure was not planned or intended as all most every day plan a turns to plan b and c. Mother nature dictates where I go sometimes as well as any plowed roads that can make our job easier. The cookie shuffle worked very well this year as I tell everyone that gets lost in my maze of trails. I'm not a road engineer.
       Man did we get overwhelmed with wheel house's this past weekend, any fish coming from southwest had to go threw a gauntlet of hooks to find my fishermen.
       I had two wheel house's  that I set up at the end of the hillmens highway and was surprised how bad they did. I guess I should of went south not east? The nw road has gotten to much to maintain, there's one lone house out that way that will need a new trail made .
       Its all started Thursday as jonnny boy and I prepped for the weekend with Joe, Zack, Adam and   his crew arriving fro florida. Zacks birthday wish was fishing red lake, they had a blast. They went to westwind where they enjoyed a fish fry, plus they took home a few fish with a couple even getting a ride in florida fish house as we moved a small distance to put it on fresh ice for there last night sunday. Last year when they came we landed on the elusive yet still catchable upper red lake crappie mother load? I think  they had dreams for a year of repeating that. Every year is different and again this year was no exception.
       Ben who proposed in old Minnesota to Shawna 8 years ago were in old Minnesota with there two adorable kids. Louie the fishing machine and his little sister Willa plus there friend Nelli.
       They had a blast also with Shawna getting a elusive yet still catchable upper red lake crappie to boot. They also managed to take home a nice batch of upper red lake walleyes.
       Hunter and his two buddies were in north Dakota. It was slow but they also managed to take home a batch of fish.
       Charlie and Rizzo were in montana , They were very serious about there fishing and went home with there 8.
      Jeromy and his gal were in north Carolina Saturday, sunday . They also managed to get there 8.
       Sunday was a very tough day as we had all 5 houses re rented. I was planning on moving all of them so we battled mother nature the whole time as a ne wind with 2 inches of snow made it impossible to see. At one point I was getting sea sick as I struggled to see, With the sky, horizon and the lake all the same color. wow what a struggle.
       It took us  7 1/2 hours but we got every thing cleaned, moved.
       Mother nature has given us another bout of snow so tomorrow I will let every one know how the houses did the last two days as its time to check the fluids and fire up the fleet
       
    • nickeleye
      Figured I should report back... I fished prime time on Saturday morning and Saturday evening. No action. It didn't help that I forgot to grab the vexilar on the first outing, but it didn't help to have it on the second outing either! ha! Marked a few but couldn't get them to bite. Used a GPS chip to punch some holes over structure, but when I came back with the vexilar, they weren't quite as deep as I hoped. Thanks for the pointers BrianF
  • Share & Have Fun