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SHELTER I.D.

fishmeister_86

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HI F.M.ERS,

JUST WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW THAT YOU STILL NEED YOUR I.D. ON A PORTABLE, A GUY OVER BY ORR, MINN WHO WAS FISHING ASH LAKE GOT A $100 TICKET...YESTERDAY.

SINCERELY,

FISHMEISTER

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wingnut38 Collaborator

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i knew they would find away to get some money out of us somehow. tell everyone you don't need a license on a portable, but be descreet about letting people know they need to have id on it. might as well buy the license.

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wanger29 Experienced

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My buddy got a warning last night. Evidentally all you need on the outside of the portable is your DNR number, found on your fishing license. That's it, nothing else.

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I have always avoided bashing the DNR but I think the DNR kinda dropped the ball on this. I have spoken to a lot of anglers that are under the impression that you do not need any identification on your house now. Hopefully the word spreads and people are not ticketed

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Don't blame the DNR for not making sure you are legal before going out on the lake.This in all the new releases stating you still need to have I.D on the house just not the license.

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i still don't get it though. if your portable is set up out there, you are probably going to be in it or next to it. so why do they need it to be id'd when all they have to do is ask you for your license when you are right there. they are gonna ask you for it anyways.

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Sutty Experienced

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The short answer is that we live in MN. For some reason we need to have a rule for everything. The Department of No Reason also lives here. I believe the CO's in the field have an important job and for the most part do it to the best of there abilities but the main building in St. Paul is a 1/2 Acre or so surrounded by reality.

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wingnut,

I would assume that one of the probably many reasons is for the do gooders out there who call the T.I.P. line and report wiolations. We all know that the CO's can't be Johnny on the spot to every complaint. Therefore, by having the ID on the outside of the shelter, the CO who gets the complaint can follow up on it easier (provided the tipster knows enough to get the ID number and give it to T.I.P.).

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You sound like Ron Schara grin.gif

Seriously, though, I think the DNR in MN does a heck of a job. I agree that there are a lot of laws, but they really aren't that complicated if you actually take the time to read them. It is our responsibility as sportsmen to do so.

The ID law is likely in place for officer safety and to let officers know who may or may not be in the house. I may be mistaken, but I believe that Minnesota courts ruled that officers are not allowed to enter fish houses without permission. Thus, the only way for a DNR officer to identify who may be in a house is by requiring some form of ID on the outside...I'll look into it.

-Chris

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Every CO I have ever talked to has been great. I have nothing but respect for them. The thing I don't like is they are forced to interpret what each law means. A quick example I was drawn for moose hunting a couple years ago. In the pre hunt meeting were several CO's talking about different rules and regulations and it was interesting to see how much each of them differed in how they interpreted how a law was to be enforced. Than the flood gates opened up with questions on what is a right of way, what is a road, does this count as a cased gun.... it was endless. A lot of it was silly but much of it was people trying to figure out what the rules really mean.

I came away from it learning that not only does the average sportsman not know what all of the rules mean but neither do the CO's Each of them has to decide how to enforce the laws which will vary from area to area. I am not saying they don't know the rules, I am saying they all interpret them differently.

Last weekend I had a friend get a ticket on LOW for having an extra walleye in his house. He was in a group of three portables all within 20 yards. They thought they were legal because they thought party fishing was fine and one of the houses was getting skunked, so they were just talking back and forth to keep track. I am not saying what he did was right or wrong but another CO told him he would not have written him a ticket for that.

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HI,

I DO KNOW ONE OF THE REASONS YOU ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE SOME FORM OF I.D. ON THE HOUSE. IF A GAME WARDEN CHECKS YOU AND OBSERVES ALOT OF GARBAGE, THEY WILL G.P.S. IT & NAME IT, IF THEY RETURN TO GARBAGE STILL THERE...YOU WILL BE FINED, I HAVE WATCHED THEM G.P.S HOUSES & PORTABLES. I CAN TELL YOU FOLKS LIKE KELLY & JON APPRECIATE THIS LAW AS WHEN YOU LIVE THERE, YOU KINDA TAKE THINGS PERSONAL. KINDA LIKE RAINY TO ME!!!

SINCERELY,

FISHMEISTER

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Sutty,

The two officers in your LOW example were not interpreting the law differently. The law is clear and your buddy was in violation. Officer number two may have chosen to exercise his discretion and not write a ticket, but give a warning. That does not mean he interpreted the activity as legal.

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The paper around here (Pine River) had alot of articles on the new regs regarding the licensing of fish houses, but all of it was in regards to any shack left out over night. It really gave the impression that portables were excluded.

No I haven't looked at the new DNR regs, so I was thinking the same as many others, a portable didn't need the yearly tag. I can understand you DNR ID number attached to the outside, that never changes, except for a new owner.

Time to catch up on some reading.

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i was under the impression that you needed nothing on the outside of a portable, but if you guys say there needs to be an id # then how would you get that. im an out of state resident, so would i just take the # of my license and stick it on the outside?

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Your I.D. could be your name and address, or your drivers license number, or your fishing license number posted on the outside of your portable fish house in 2" high letters. smile.gif

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