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SFBOY

I have heard that they were talking about repealing the fees for portable fish houses. Does anyone know if this has happened yet?

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Powerstroke

Yes, the license fee for PORTABLE shelters has been done away with. If you are leaving your shelter of any kind on thie ice overnight, then it will need a license.

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Soul_Patrol

Yes its true no more fee! unless you leave it on the ice overnight.

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EBass

Yup the last 2 posters are correct. I called the DNR about it too. No more shelter tags on portables, unless you're staying overnight, but what does "overnight" really consist of? Ask the DNR confused.gif

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Sergeant Slabber

Sure...I tried to be on the ball and got my shelter tag right away when I bought my 07 fishing license. Ya think the DNR will reimburse me for the fee wink.gif

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lotsofish

Are you still supposed to have your name and address in 2" letters on the outside of your portable now?

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Powerstroke

Yes you still need to label your portable. If you don't want to put your address you can use your DNR number. Its just a 9-digit number and is much easier.

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robbo17

From what I heard, If it is a portable shelter(not on wheels) and not left unattended for the night you do not need a license. But I don't work for the DNR so don't take my word for it. I will be meeting with the DNR shortly and will get a clarification from them and pass it on.

Robbo

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Changes to fish house rules during the close of the 2007 Legislative session will greet anglers in Minnesota this ice fishing season, particularly those leaving such structures unattended on the ice overnight. The Minnesota Department of Natural Resources (DNR) expects the changes to generate some questions since the 2007 Fishing Regulations Handbook does not reflect the new statute language.

Col. Mike Hamm, DNR’s chief conservation officer, said the changes are pretty straightforward. “If you haul a fish house out and leave it unattended on the ice overnight, it needs a fish house license,” Hamm said. The rule change applies to both dark houses and fish houses.

The legal definition for a “fish house” means a structure set on the ice of state waters to provide shelter while taking fish by angling.

For a fish house or a dark house to require a shelter license, it has to be left unattended on the ice overnight and used for taking fish. “Overnight” is defined as the hours between sunset and sunrise outlined in the DNR’s sunrise/sunset tables in the 2007 Fishing Regulations Handbook.

Also under new provisions of the statute, residents and nonresidents are treated the same. This means in most cases a nonresident using a fish house during daylight hours will not need a fish house license. Likewise, if a nonresident angler is found occupying a fish house during the night, no fish house license will be required. However, if a nonresident places a fish house on a lake and leaves it unattended overnight, a nonresident shelter license will be required.

“For the 2007-2008 winter season, residents and nonresidents will need the appropriate fish house license only if the fish house is left unattended on the ice overnight,” Hamm said.

FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS

Question: Resident or nonresident is angling with a fish house for five hours during the day. Person leaves ice with the fish house. Does angler need a fish house license?

Answer: No. A fish house license is not required in this instance.

Question: Resident or nonresident angler stays overnight in a fish house. Does person need a fish house license?

Answer: No. A fish house license is not required in this instance, as long as the fish house is occupied.

Question: Resident or nonresident angler leaves fish house unoccupied on an area lake overnight in front of the resort angler is staying at. Does the fish house require a fish house license?

Answer: Yes. A fish house license would be required in this instance. Anytime the fish house is left unattended overnight, a fish house license is required.

Question: A group of (resident or nonresident) anglers pulls a fish house on the ice for a weekend of ice fishing. The fish house is designed with a wheel system that allows for easy access and removal from the lake. The anglers stay in the house and never leave it unoccupied during the course of the weekend. Does the fish house require a license?

Answer: No. A fish house license is not required as long as the fish house is attended. This includes daylight, as well as nighttime use.

Question: A group of anglers (resident or nonresident) anglers constructs an 8- by - 8- by 12-foot fish house on a local lake. Regularly the group, or members of the group, will meet at the fish house after work to fish. By 9 p.m. they’ve all left and return the following day at 5 p.m. for more fun. Does this fish house require a license?

Answer: Yes. Depending on who owns the fish house, a resident or a nonresident fish house license would be required.

The following regulations apply to fish houses, dark houses and portable shelters used on all Minnesota waters, unless noted in the 2007 Minnesota Fishing Regulations Handbook.

- A person may not take fish from a dark house or fish house that is left unattended on

the ice overnight unless the house is licensed and has a license tag attached to the

exterior in a readily visible location. The commissioner must issue a tag with a dark

house or fish house license, marked with a number to correspond with the license

and the years of issue. A dark house or fishing house is not required of a resident on

boundary waters where the adjacent state does not charge a fee for the same activity.

- Nonresidents may obtain a license for a fish shelter.

- All shelters (including dark houses, fish houses and portable shelters) placed on the

ice of Minnesota waters must have either the complete name and address, driver’s

license number, or the nine-digit Minnesota DNR number on the license of

the owner plainly and legibly displayed on the outside in letters, and figures at least

two inches in height.

- A tag, furnished with the license, must be attached to the exterior in a readily visible location.

- Dark houses, fish houses and portable shelters must have a door that can be opened from the outside at any time when in use.

- Fish houses left on the ice overnight need to have at least two square inches of

reflective material on each side of the house.

- Fish houses must comply with the identification requirements of the state for which

the angler is licensed.

- No person may erect a dark house, fish house or shelter within 10 feet of an existing

dark house, fish house or shelter.

- Portable dark houses, fish houses and shelters may be used for fishing within the

Boundary Waters Canoe Area Wilderness (BWCAW), but must be removed from the

ice each night. The structure must be removed from the BWCAW each time the

occupant leaves the BWCAW.

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SFBOY

Great information. Thank you for the help. I could never understand that fee that we have been paying for all these years. They never made people license their tents when they went camping and I couldnt see any difference. Thanks again for the good news.

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Zdaddy76

So if the wife kicks you out of the house, can you live in the fish house without a license or will the state come after you for property taxes instead. Can you homestead a fish house?

---Zdaddy

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Carp-fisher

Licenses no longer required for portable fish houses? This is the most common sense piece of legislation to come out of Minnesota politics in recent years.... tongue.gif

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Zdaddy76

Yep, your right carp, it's not often our great state recinds a tax or a fee. Seems that the govt. is good at making new fees and taxes though. I was suprised to see that happen.

---Zdaddy

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Carp-fisher

Yeah imagine this scenario: Icefishing for trout in a State Park:

Fishing License

Trout Stamp

State Park Pass

Ice House License

Well atleast I don't need the Ice House License anymore... smile.gif

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Zdaddy76

Can you still smoke cigarettes in a state park? Probably not for long.

---Zdaddy

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SFBOY

actually you can still smoke cigarettes in a state park. however, they must each have a serial number on them that has to be registered with the office before you enter the park. upon leaving, you need to present the used butts to the office that they may verify the cigarettes have been smoked in order of lowest to highest number. if you smoke more than 2 a day, you must submit to a voluntary 6 hour class on how cigarettes are bad for your health. seems fair enough to me.

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datvbdad

So just to clarify for me. If I pull my hard sided house out for the day, I do not need a house license?

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bassNspear

anything that stays overnight, needs to have a licence on it.

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spinnerfisher

only if it stays overnight not occupied, you can stay in a house overnight with no license as long as you are in it, from what i understand of the new law

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datvbdad

Interesting. I can use my wheel house all year with no license as long as I come and go with it each fishing day. Some progressive thinking.

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bassNspear

yep your thinking. I was talking to a guy the other night about it, and he said that he was going to buy the licence for his big house anyway, becuase what happens if you want to leave it out there for that ONE night.

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