Guests - If You want access to member only forums on FM. You will gain access only when you Sign-in or Sign-Up on Fishing Minnesota.

It's easy - LOOK UPPER right menu.

Sign in to follow this  
Followers 0
LwnmwnMan2

Oil leak = intake manifold???

16 posts in this topic

Took my minivan in today (yes, I'll admit one vehicle is a minivan, unlike my wife wants to) to have the oil changed and checked for oil leaks.

No external leaks were found, but I'm losing about a quart of oil every 1000 miles.

Does this pretty much lean towards work on the intake manifold??

2005 Chrysler T&C, 3.8L

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Not likely. I did some quick searching and it looks like it is a fairly common thing with the newer 3.8. If somebody knows of a resolution other than starting with a PVC valve I'm sure they will chime in. Otherwise I'll check to see if there are any TSB's when I get to work tomorrow.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

How many miles on the town and country?

I would say there is not much you can do.

Manufacture will not even repair anything untill you start getting to a quart under 700 miles (at least Ford).

Is there any large amounts of smoke out tail pipe? Can you smell oil burning?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Quote:

How many miles on the town and country?

I would say there is not much you can do.

Manufacture will not even repair anything untill you start getting to a quart under 700 miles (at least Ford).

Is there any large amounts of smoke out tail pipe? Can you smell oil burning?


No smoke at all, no burning smell at all. Also, 61k miles, just started doing it at about 55k miles.

It's got the 70k powertrain warranty, so I've got to figure it out pretty quick if I can get it covered under warranty.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

A quart every 1,000 miles is common exceptable standard. Whether or not chrysler thinks it is excessive and do something about it is up to chrysler, but It can't hurt to ask.

Do you bring it to them for routine maintenance?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Quote:


Do you bring it to them for routine maintenance?


This will be the key of getting something done under warranty.

If you are under a power train warranty, I would bring it in ASAP (pay for another oil change) and start an oil consumption test.

What will happen is they change oil and mark drain plug and document oil level was set at full. Then you go out and drive for awhile and when oil starts to get low, (DO NOT FILL UP) head back to dealer and have them fill up and document. If done correctly and enough evidence is found, a tear down of eng. will be auth. threw Chrysler. This will all depend upon the dealership and or manager, but it spells nice money for service department because of the claim amount charged to manufacture.

I would not delay. Do it today. Even though, it might never end up being nothing more than oil consumption. If you have a window of getting it covered, take that window and run with it.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Quote:

A quart every 1,000 miles is common exceptable standard. Whether or not chrysler thinks it is excessive and do something about it is up to chrysler, but It can't hurt to ask.

Do you bring it to them for routine maintenance?


No, we do our own maintenance / run Amsoil.

We've been down this road in the past with the local dealer, have had MANY discussions about using non-Mopar lubricants / filters, and have had other issues covered under warranty.

If it's "normal", then I'm not going to worry about it.

If it's something out of the ordinary, then I'd bring it in.

However, if it's something that can't be nailed down right away, and it's a "seek and destroy" type situation, I'm not about to put the money into labor for that.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

If it is a Chrysler contract, you are ok. If it is an aftermarket extended power train warranty, you are out on a limb for awhile.

The Chrysler power train warranty will cover anything once eng. is cracked open (unless something foreign is found).

If you run amsoil, you are going to have an up hill battle with dealer. They will also possibly say synthetic oil will burn a little more or its the cause of the concern (even when not).

If it isn’t broke, I would not have it fixed. But, you paid for a warranty, which you should be entitled to use. Remember, 9 times out of 10, the dealer ship is on your side and would like to push threw a repair or a reman eng... It spells out money for service department. But again, this would be up to the Service Manager and his relationship with the manufacture.

Good luck!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Quote:

I'll check to see if there are any TSB's when I get to work tomorrow.


We need to chip in and get a AirJer a copy of Mitchel OD for home use.... grin.gif

Mine only goes to 02.... wink.gif

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Quote:


If somebody knows of a resolution other than starting with a PVC valve I'm sure they will chime in.


For some reason, I have a thought about a redesigned vent tube and PVC elbow. If no one comes forward with a TSB, I will make some calls to see if an updated PVC hose and elbow applies to this model.

Pier, my all data ran out and expired. My Mitchell on Demand is a library of dusty old books going up to about 95. grin.gif

It would be nice for Airjer to have access to this (if he already does not). But I am sure like me, he knows someone with it or can find out at work or a couple of phone calls.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Quote:

If it is a Chrysler contract, you are ok. If it is an aftermarket extended power train warranty, you are out on a limb for awhile.

The Chrysler power train warranty will cover anything once eng. is cracked open (unless something foreign is found).

If you run amsoil, you are going to have an up hill battle with dealer. They will also possibly say synthetic oil will burn a little more or its the cause of the concern (even when not).

If it isn’t broke, I would not have it fixed. But, you paid for a warranty, which you should be entitled to use. Remember, 9 times out of 10, the dealer ship is on your side and would like to push threw a repair or a reman eng... It spells out money for service department. But again, this would be up to the Service Manager and his relationship with the manufacture.

Good luck!


The warranty is the standard 7 year / 70k mile that was factory back in 2005. Then they dropped back to the 3/36.

Now, if it gets to be too much here before Feb., and nothing can be done about it, I might just dump it for an '08 and get the lifetime warranty.

Yes, I realize it's $500-1000 once I'm past the 70k, more if the engine goes, instead of a new vehicle, but there's something to be said about having no warranty down the road, and running new with the lifetime warranty.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites


We need to chip in and get a AirJer a copy of Mitchel OD for home use.... grin.gif

Mine only goes to 02.... wink.gif


Feel Free to send donations to..... grin.gif

I am working on that!!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Are you using the preferred oil viscosity?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Quote:

Are you using the preferred oil viscosity?


On the cap it says 5-20, but in the book it gives you a range. I use 5-30.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

There where no oil consumption TSB's on Mitchell. I am confident chrysler is aware of the issue.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

If you go to the dealer for an oil consumption test, they will almost certainly test with OEM oil of the preferred viscosity.

At least that's how it works for our equipment when there is an oil consumption concern.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.
Sign in to follow this  
Followers 0



  • Posts

    • CaptainSeabass
      G'day guys, I've started up this post as I will be visiting Minnesota (to be specific the Stuart Lake in the Ottertail Lake area) and I would love to hook into some fish! I'm originally from the Netherlands, have lived in Australia for the last 8 years working as a fishing guide, I have moved to Dallas TX with my wife and now we will be visiting my in-laws in Minnesota. I would love to catch Musky, which I know West Battle Lake holds, and of course Walleye. I have been trying to look for areas that hold smallmouth but was unable to find any. I don't have a boat up there or anything so I know I will be in a massive disadvantage for musky but I will give it a try with waders. I would love to get as many tips as possible! Cheers!
    • thelars5
      This years West Central Bowhunter 60 will be held on August 12th and 13th with registration from 9am - 3pm Saturday and 9am - 2pm Sunday!   Come to enjoy the rolling hills and grasslands of the Prairie Woods Environmental Learning Center. Little Crow Archers of Willmar & Swift County Archers of Benson have teamed up to host this 60-Target 3-D shoot. Shoot it in one day, or make a weekend of it and shoot both days! Our promise is that you will not be disappointed!   Highlights include, Generous sized walking trails, On-site concessions, and seating deck! Stakes for : Adult, Youth, Traditional, and Cubs All on over 100 Acres! 90% Rinehart Targets   Full Course (60-Targets) $23 Adults ~ $15 Youth 16 & under ~ $60 Family Max 1/2 Course (30-Targets) $14 Adults ~ $8 Youth 16 & under ~ $36 Family Max   Shoot Location: Prairie Woods Environmental Learning Center 12718 10th St NE Spicer, MN 56288 GPS coordinates: N 45° 14.716 W 95° 1.777 @1.5 Miles West of Hwy 71 on County Road 29   www.littlecrowarchers.com
    • osok
         Personally I do seem to catch quite a few overs, some days it can be a challenge to find keeper fish ( stupid problem to have, huh?). One thing I notice is that all the fish seem to be very thick through out the classes.   While I was tackling some honey-do's I noticed that the breeze was a bit stiff, I'm sure it was a challenge to maintain a line or consistent  speed.   Over all was it a good day for you?
    • ZachD
      Nope that's exactly what I wanted to hear thank you probably will go to look at gander in forest lake to see if they have anything good left
    • ZachD
      There are good bass in Crooked too
    • DLD24
      Do you typically catch quite a few overs on fish? I fished it for the first time today and we got lots of gills and a few good quality eyes...The wind made boat control a pain.
    • monstermoose78
      lol I posted that Friday but with no service it must went when I ran into town for new hose
    • monstermoose78
      I was up over the weekend to do cabin duties. I did get laker trout at cascade river Friday mornings it was 17 inches but made for great trout and eggs breakfast. Agree with maple bacon longjohn and Chet's doughnut. Also a must stop for me is trail center for lunch the 3 Cheese grilled cheese is amazing with a chocolate and peanut butter milkshake. Just look at this lunch
    • Cliff Wagenbach
      Lindy rig with 1/2 crawler! 15' to 19' depth. Cliff
    • TNtoMN_HuntFish
      I second Crooked Lake. Super clear water too. I kayaked in there recently and was amazed at how many sunnies are in there. First calm wind day I get I'm gonna get the yak in there and bring my flyrod.