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PerchJerker

Late Report

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I fished on Friday and Saturday nights, 10/26 and 10/27. After that I spent a few days bowhunting and am just now getting back to a computer.

Overall I was disappointed in the fishing. I was hoping (expecting, really) to hit the water, quickly dial in a pattern for those big fall walleyes, and have consistent fishing all night long. Didn't happen quite like that.

Both nights we got off to fast starts, getting on fish right away, and some really nice fish. The first fish of the trip was a legit 28.5" walleye. But both nights we'd have stretches where we'd get 2 or 3 or 4 quick fish, or catch fish on 2 or 3 or 4 consecutive trolling passes, and think we were really going to have some good fishing ....... only to get hit by a lull that would last for an hour or more before we'd get action again. And our flurries were always followed by more lulls. I thought it was very difficult to get consistent action.

Another example of a flurry followed by a lull ...... on Saturday we made a move to a new spot. We set our lines in deeper water and moved in toward the break and caught a fish right away, before we really even got started on our trolling pass. We repeated that and got a 2nd fish. Same for a 3rd and 4th fish. 4 quality fish in less than 10 minutes and we hadn't even got into our trolling pass yet. But then we made 3 passes through there and didn't get another bite. Frustrating grin.gif

Surprisingly, husky jerks and rogues were not our best baits. The water was 49 degrees but we did better on shad baits. I was reluctant to switch and had to see several fish caught on them before I'd change, but it was definately the best bait for our group on this trip.

Both nights were pretty calm and pretty crowded on the water. After the first flurry of bites ended each night we did better trying to get away from people. I think some more wave action would have helped the bite.

Good luck to everyone that tries it this weekend. I'll be in bed sleeping and dreaming about big bucks while you guys are chasing after those walleyes grin.gifgrin.gifgrin.gif

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Nice report PJ. Welcome back to reality. smirk.gif

We saw "flurries" like that when the moon was at it's brightest. But we were able to adjust with smaller profile baits in bright colors in slightly shallower water to keep their attention.

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Funny, we catch 10-20 walleyes between 20"-29" in one night and we complain. People from other areas must laugh at us when complain about it. grin.gif

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Did you burn a full tank of gas?

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Did you burn a full tank of gas?


Not even close. Only used about 8 gallons over 2 nights. No long runs this weekend, and I mostly stayed away from the most popular spots since it was a busy weekend on the water.

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We saw "flurries" like that when the moon was at it's brightest. But we were able to adjust with smaller profile baits in bright colors in slightly shallower water to keep their attention.


Friday night was cloudy and dark, especially for the 1st half of the night, and we did best on dark colored baits. Initially I was changing to bigger baits for the bigger profiles and slower actions but eventually came around to the shad baits. I assumed they were hot because of their action but maybe it was for their smaller profiles???

Saturday was a bright night and we fished mostly shad baits and bright colored baits. Both nights had very little wind where we were fishing. Both nights our bite started a little deeper, like 8 feet (I assume they would have been shallower with some wave action), and as the night wore on the action shifted up to 4 feet. Due to the calm conditions and trying to stay away from the packs of boats it was easy to do S turns and cover a lot of depths.

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Funny, we catch 10-20 walleyes between 20"-29" in one night and we complain. People from other areas must laugh at us when complain about it.
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Laugh, I don't think so. GRRRR!! tongue.gif Envy is more like it. smile.gif

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I echo your feelings. It was definitely slower. Most guys are reporting 10-15 a night which is still a good night. Anything more than that I have found was either luck or BS. Last year 30 a night was pretty common and in the past even better.

Even the guides are struggling to put more than 20 in the boat unless they are staying till 4-5 a.m.

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the last two times i was up only 5 walleyes were boated each time. to catch 10 or more a trip is an excellent trip! i have great hopes for saturday night. its all relative though, you guys having nights like talked about in this thread have paid your dues...

best of luck to all adventurous enough to get out there.

regards,

minnesotatuff

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ML trolling in the fall is relatively simple fishing IMO.

The biggest thing I see people doing wrong is going way too fast!!!

When I was up last weekend and puttin along at 1.0-1.6, I had boats zingin past me all night. I will bet they had slow nights.

Other than that, catch a fish, knock in an icon and beat that spot up until it quits giving up fish. When it does, move on until you find some more. Like PJ said, it seems you will catch 2-3 fish in an area, then you have to go looking for more.

Staying away from traffic also helps IMO.

PS 50 fish nights are not common this year. Most are fish tales!

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The smaller profile baits have definitely found their place on ML this fall. #7 and #9 Salmo Minnows have been good to me as have #5 shallow Shad Raps. I think a lot of this has to do with the YOY perch population out there. Monster schools of those and very few tulibee, to this point, to compete with. However, that will soon change.

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Willy,

Most of the time I would tend to agree with going slower. However, we fished several nights last week up to and including Friday night. Fishing was not near as good for us as the last 3 years...except for Friday night. Had some friends in another boat who only had a 75 horse outboard...couldnt get their speed under 2 mph. Fished an area we had never tried before. The guys with the 75 horse motor tried the spot before us, and had boated 10-12 fish before we got there(including a 26 and 30.5). We made several runs trolling 1.2 - 1.6 and nothing. Put on jointed shap raps/x-raps and cranked it up to 1.75 - 2.5 and started catching fish(most from 22-25); couple 26's; couple of eaters....sometimes higher speeds work....seems awfully fast for that time of year, but I have seen it before...we had 3 boats working that area that night and each boat landed 20-25 fish...best night for all of us...being at a spot where there was little traffic had alot to do with it I'm sure...but sometimes speed works!?

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thats a real advantage having 3 boats to experiment with...fantastic trip! im going up tomorrow and plan on putting in at eddy's between 5 & 6. we'll be 2 people in a warrior. if anyone wants to share info to hone in on tactics, my cell is 651/270-3365.

regards,

minnesotatuff

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minnesotatuff,

the perch colored jointed shad raps/x-raps seemed to be the best for our boat...did get a few on the shad color also. The size 4 shad raps got beat up pretty good(was hard to keep the size 5 out of the weeds)...depths from 5-9 feet....inside of the weedline and over it...fought the weeds quite a bit...but sometimes if you would hit a weed and jerk it loose...wham!

The blue/silver husky jerks(mainly size 10) worked well for some in our group also...that, black/gold, and tennessee shad have always worked pretty good for us ...on cloudy nights we have done well with firetiger...hopefully that helps a little...

Good Luck!

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cool, thanks! i was wondering about the jointed perch shads. hadnt tried them in shallow, dont think i have a shallow one... i have had good luck on a black & chrome SSR5, a shad colored #7 & #5, and clown, but im drawn to firetiger. take that with a grain of salt though, im not able to post any great catches. 5-9 feet is a little deeper than i have been concentrating but will be using some S-curves to experiment. that night a couple weeks ago when the casino gaurd showed me a walleye sitting by the dock at 1:00 in the morning was all the proof i needed to think i needed to be shallow. well, maybe not all. ive read comments on here from very experienced people...guess i always have to learn the hard way.

all the info coming from here is fantastic for putting together a plan for tomorrow. my fishing buddy from the pic (different than the person tomorrow) & i were talking about trying minnows with a split-shot. now theres another completely different approach. this trip is planned to be trolling... im looking forward to any input the people at the resort might have too. it all helps. all the stars have to align to get the big one!

thanks again and good luck to all.

regards,

minnesotatuff

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That walleye must be a frequent visitor, as a DNR guy pointed him out again on Saturday night when we were talking at the access ramp.

He was out infront of the Launch boat. grin.gif

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we saw the same security guard on saturday also. he told us about the walleye but we didnt go look. there was a white lund pulling in right after us. was that you?

regards,

minnesotatuff

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Nope, I have a white Alumacraft Tournament Sport.

after being out all night friday and not much sleep during the day on saturday, i called it a night at 9:00 saturday with no fish.

Managed 5 up by garrison on friday night in 12 hours of fishing.

Dont know what i'm not doing right, used #8 and #10 sizes this week and speed was .9 to 1.3 and worked from 4ft to 10ft with different colors and experimenting with line lenght etc, and that is all i got to show for it. Got fish on Gold and tenn shad and the 26"er on a #10 clown. I did get a tagged 25"er, so that was kind of cool. i plugged the info in on the DNR website last night and will have to see what comes back from it.

I guess 5 fish above 19" would be considered a good night on any other lake in the state...it's just when you hear of others doing 5 times that it just makes me wonder what i'm not doing?

Anyway, that was probably my last trip up to the pond until ice up.

Steve

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Did you try running #5 & 7 Shallow Shad Raps?? I would use 12 & 14 HJ's. How far were you running them behind the boat?? 40-80 ft behind??. Colors used?? Purple Perch is working well.

Just questions, not doubting anything else.

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Rodmaker,

No i didn't go that small with the #5's. I thought about it, but not for very long. grin.gif

Last week that is all i was using was the HJ14's and even some 18 floating raps (which was what i caught the Pike on), and i guess that was too big for their preference last week. so this week i tried to keep it a little smaller. figured if nothing else i might just catch more small eye's.

I did have a purple perch on for a little while but nothing wanted it.

I was running the line from 50' back to 150' over the 9-10' water...which is how i picked up the 26"er running it way back.

Heck, i even put a 8' floro leader on this week and it upped my catch by 3 grin.gif

I guess it just takes time on the water and years of checking out new spots and getting first hand experience and paying attention to details. i'm thru the rookie season for fall trolling and have learned quite a few things this year as far as how the bait size preference can fluctuate and how important speed is as well as depth. I'll have to compile all this info and put it to good use in my 2nd season next year and hopefully see better results. cool.gif

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Sounds like you tried about everything!!!

If you have time, go back to the Mille Lacs posts from last Fall. Tons of info in them. More info and reports I believe than so far this year. Print them out and put into a 3 ring binder for future references.

If you get out again, about the only thing you could try is to get shallow (3 ft) and maybe cast.

I've brought up the idea to Paul W. about making a DVD on night time trolling on Mille Lacs. I need to get in touch with him again and see what his thoughts are.

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You know that is a great idea about making some print outs and keeping it in the boat.

I mean i read stuff here and think i have it stored and want to try something out, then to find out that i forgot about that idea when i read the new posts after i got home....

That night time trolling idea on DVD sounds like a good idea...maybe you could be a co-star in it too? cool.gif

and i did think about doing a little casting, but again that was on the way up and forgot about it while actually on the lake. crazy.gif

Maybe we'll see you up on the ice.

Steve

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I would like to get up there this season. It's been a long time since I've fished "hard water up there".

I always catch myself printing out posts ansd storing them away.

I'll give Paul a call late in the week and see if he would like to pursue the idea of the DVD.

I mentioned to him to cover the Summer Season also. Make 2 DVD's. I'm sure that they would be a big hit to everyone who fishes Mille Lacs. cool.gifgrin.gif

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DVD production; wow, stepping into the big-time.

Mule Shack, are you holding onto your rod or letting it sit in the rod holder? Are you using snap swivels or direct-tie on the presentation?

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Just an idea. What do you think???

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