Guests - If You want access to member only forums on FM. You will gain access only when you Sign-in or Sign-Up on Fishing Minnesota.

It's easy - LOOK UPPER right menu.

  • Announcements

    • Rick

      Members Only Fluid Forum View   08/08/2017

      Fluid forum view allows members only to get right to the meat of this community; the topics. You can toggle between your preferred forum view just below to the left on the main forum entrance. You will see three icons. Try them out and see what you prefer.   Fluid view allows you, if you are a signed up member, to see the newest topic posts in either all forums (select none or all) or in just your favorite forums (select the ones you want to see when you come to Fishing Minnesota). It keeps and in real time with respect to Topic posts and lets YOU SELECT YOUR FAVORITE FORUMS. It can make things fun and easy. This is especially true for less experienced visitors raised on social media. If you, as a members want more specific topics, you can even select a single forum to view. Let us take a look at fluid view in action. We will then break it down and explain how it works in more detail.   The video shows the topic list and the forum filter box. As you can see, it is easy to change the topic list by changing the selected forums. This view replaces the traditional list of categories and forums.   Of course, members only can change the view to better suit your way of browsing.   You will notice a “grid” option. We have moved the grid forum theme setting into the main forum settings. This makes it an option for members only to choose. This screenshot also shows the removal of the forum breadcrumb in fluid view mode. Fluid view remembers your last forum selection so you don’t lose your place when you go back to the listing. The benefit of this feature is easy to see. It removes a potential barrier of entry for members only. It puts the spotlight on topics themselves, and not the hierarchical forum structure. You as a member will enjoy viewing many forums at once and switching between them without leaving the page. We hope that fluid view, the new functionality is an asset that you enjoy .
Sign in to follow this  
Agronomist_at_IA

Where can a guy get spearfishing equipment?

Recommended Posts

Agronomist_at_IA    15
Agronomist_at_IA

where can a person find stuff to spearfish?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Scott M    3
Scott M

Boy, what a great question. I've never thought about it because my spear and shack were passed down to me and decoys are a little easier to find.

I hardly, if ever, see spears for sale at the Big Box stores, I have actually seen more at the mom and pops stores. There are strong spearing communities in some places. Annandale, Detroit Lakes, Fertile, and Cass Lake are a couple that spring to mind for me personally but they are not exclusive and many would disagree with me. You could try calling some small bait shops in those type of towns.

I googled things and found darkhousespearingsupply. You might give them a try if you don't want to look for things.

It's a pretty short list of things needed:

A shack with no windows

A saw or spud bar to cut the hole

A decoy or sucker rig

A spear with rope on it

Some line to hang the decoy on

You can use some other things (A hookless daredevil on a string as an example) but those are your basics.

Good luck Agronomist.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Agronomist_at_IA    15
Agronomist_at_IA

Got a strikemaster 5 tine weighted spear from sportsmansguide and a decoy. I'm trying to find a cheap portable with and open floor for my dark house. I have never been spearing or seen it done. does anyone have a video i could watch. Trying to figure out something i read about the rope going around the spear front????? Had something to do with bringing in the fish?????

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Early Riser    7
Early Riser

Agronomist I assume you are currently living in IA. It might be hard to find spearing equipment in a non-spearing state. In MN most small bait shops sell spears and a few decoys. People also need an ice saw, chisel and tongs to pull out the blocks and to drag them back to the hole when finished for the day. An Otter can be used as a darkhouse. Some guys throw an extra tarp over them to make the inside darker. If you want to check out what it is like, I am sure some of the guys on the forum would take you along. In MN non-residents can sit in the darkhouse to watch but not to spear. North Dakota, MI, WI and AK are the only states that allow non-residents to buy a spearing license.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Scott M    3
Scott M

As far as taking care of your spear, be sure to have something to protect the tines from getting dinged up. I have a cover I made by drilling holes in a dowel. As you can see from the videos, you need to tie a rope to your spear. If it doens't have a loop at the top of the handle, you should find a machinist who can drill a hole for you so you can attach a rope. Get good, dense rope that won't break when wet or frozen.

Now you just need to find a nice shallow flat or a point or some sort of structure to set up on where pike are cruising. Wiggle that decoy every once in a while and be ready!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Early Riser    7
Early Riser

Parts of those videos are instructive such as cutting the hole and the view through the spear hole. On the other hand there were some serious problems depicted: 1) don't throw the spear from above the water. 2) tie off the spear so it doesn't ever hit the bottom. 3). don't throw two spears at the same time. 4) show some respect for the fish and other people by not doing things like taking bad shots so the fish fall off to die, swearing loud enough for anyone within a quarter mile to hear you, or spearing at everything that comes into the hole including tiny or huge pike (unless it is your personal trophy), etc.

It would have been better for those kids to have had a responsible adult along to teach them these things. I understand the excitement and maybe I'm a little old fashioned, but I don't like the way these guys went about their spearing. The same admonition would go for anglers that act in a similar fashion.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Scott M    3
Scott M

Early Riser is right, I was in a hurry to find Agronomist a good spearing video before I headed out this morning, but I didn't have my speakers on and only watched about half of it. I am going to take the video link off since they are swearing and being disrespectful.

I did notice that they threw the spear making a splash....huge no-no. How much rope one uses depends on what you are spearing over. If I spear a muddy bottom lake, I don't worry too much about hitting the bottom versus a rocky lake. But I also am careful to pull up the rope in a hurry, because the other aspect of rope length and not touching the bottom is to not give the fish any leverage (the bottom) to get off the spear.

Spearing is like stand hunting deer. You need to exercise some restraint in what you spear. You definately don't spear everything that comes through the hole, and you definately don't spear a fish twice.

So if you want to see some darkhouse spearing, do a search for it on youtube but remember that many unethical yahoos have cameras out there.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Early Riser    7
Early Riser

I go back and forth on the rope length question. When I first started out I didn't worry too much about the spear hitting the bottom, but after a couple experiences such as the spear getting stuck in the mud, hitting a rock or two, and the fish flopping on the bottom stirring up too much sediment to see for about 30 minutes, and the fact that a fish on the end of a spear on the bottom can seriously rearrange your weed cover, I have started to tie off.

I do like to have a back-up spear handy because there have been a few times when I wanted to make sure the fish didn't fall off. That being said I think it is really important to invest in the best spears you are able to find and be very selective about the shots you take.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Shack    16
Shack

My grandpa's garage grin.gif!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Agronomist_at_IA    15
Agronomist_at_IA

Quote:

So if you want to see some darkhouse spearing, do a search for it on youtube but remember that many unethical yahoos have cameras out there.


Ya those kids were a bit more on the unethical side then one likes to see. After watching those videos on you tube, it really makes it clear on how one should spear. I think that the one is using a portable eskimo lodge ice shak, I thought the flip up holes would be to small to spear from but looks like it would work.

Has of right now I have these things to go spearing with:

1. Strikemaster 5 tine spear

2. Fake Perch decoy

3. Eskimo Lodge (very dark Canvas Cover)

4. Nylon rope to tie of spear

5. Auger & spud bar to open the hole

6. 1917 acre Lake with northern and perch that's only 5ft at the deepest

Anything else I would need?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Agronomist_at_IA    15
Agronomist_at_IA

Quote:

In MN non-residents can sit in the darkhouse to watch but not to spear. North Dakota, MI, WI and AK are the only states that allow non-residents to buy a spearing license.


Didn't look into it that far, sucks guess the great state of North Dakota will have to get my money instead frown.gif I'd really rather donate it to MN much closer for me grin.gif

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
marine_man    1
marine_man

Quote:

North Dakota, MI, WI and AK are the only states that allow non-residents to buy a spearing license.


And that's only if it meets this statement, from the ND GNF website:

Quote:

Nonresidents may darkhouse spear fish in North Dakota if the nonresidents state provides the same privilege for residents of North Dakota.


Does MN allow non residents to spear?

marine_man

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Agronomist_at_IA    15
Agronomist_at_IA

Quote:

Quote:

North Dakota, MI, WI and AK are the only states that allow non-residents to buy a spearing license.


And that's only if it meets this statement, from the ND GNF website:

Quote:

Nonresidents may darkhouse spear fish in North Dakota if the nonresidents state provides the same privilege for residents of North Dakota.


lOOKS LIKE I'LL HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO GET A RESIDENT AT MY FRIENDS PLACE IN MN. blush.gif

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Agronomist_at_IA    15
Agronomist_at_IA

I was checking out the regulations on spearfishing here in Iowa. Here is what it said in the regs that is posted on the DNR website.

Unlawful Means

Gaff hooks or landing nets may be used to assist in landing fish. You cannot use any grabhook, snaghook, any kind of net,seine, trap, firearm, dynamite or other explosives, or poisonous or stupefying substances,lime,ashes or electricity in taking or attempting to take any fish.

Common carp, bighead carp, silver carp (see p. 23), grasscarp, black carp, bigmouth buffalo, smallmouth buffalo, black buffalo, quillback carpsucker, highfin carpsucker, river carpsucker,spotted sucker, white sucker, shorthead redhorse, golden redhorse,silver redhorse, sheepshead, shortnose gar, longnose gar, dogfish,gizzard shad and goldfish may be taken by hand fishing,by snagging,by spear or by bow and arrow, day or night.You cannot take or kill, or attempt to take or kill any other fish by hand fishing.

I have an e-mail into the DNR to see what they say, but looks like a guy can spearfish, just doesn't look like a very fun selection of fish. But if this is the case I would say that ND should let a guy spearfish from Iowa then. What do ya think? confused.gif

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
marine_man    1
marine_man

Quote:

But if this is the case I would say that ND should let a guy spearfish from Iowa then. What do ya think?
confused.gif


I would say so, but would be inclined to check it out with the NDGNF: ndgf@nd.gov

marine_man

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
iffwalleyes    0
iffwalleyes

I think you might be out of luck on this one but like marine man said get ahold of the game and fish they are good to respond quickly. If you are able then head to Devils Lake as they are one of the better lakes to have spearing success at.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
bassNspear    0
bassNspear

Agronomist.

I know how you feel about everythign that you need for spearing. there isnt alot that is involed, unless you are a die hard like myself, that has to have 15 decoys in the house, 3 spears, saw...... list goes on.

For starters, is not bad. If you want some tips or hints, just let me know. i can help you out anytime.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Agronomist_at_IA    15
Agronomist_at_IA

Got an e-mail in to ND to see what they say. MN definatly won't let anyone out of state spearfish, But I had someone mention that their could be a possibility of going to Upper Red Lake on the Indian Res. If you have an Indian guide take you out. Does this sound right or is the guy just messing with my mind.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
MN Mike    2
MN Mike

By no means am I a expert on Red but there are a few people from around here that go up there during the summer to fish Pike on the Red Lake River where it begins on the reservation, I believe they said the season closes at the end of October and doesn't open until the opener next year.

Other than that, I don't believe anyone other than tribal members can get out on the lakes on the reservation side.

Mike

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
bassNspear    0
bassNspear

There is a new Spearing Forum on Fishing Minnesota. Its under the Outdoor Activites.

Come join in!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Cliff Wagenbach    807
Cliff Wagenbach

If the Ice is not to thick I have used my power saw to cut my spearing holes. Just do not put oil in the auto oiler!

Cut the block of ice and use a spud to split the block into smaller pieces so it is easier to get out of the hole.

Great sport! smile.gif I have not had time to try spearing for years. frown.gif

Glad to see a spearing forum! Even if I do not get out I can read the experiences of the guys that are out there.

Cliff

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Cheeser    0
Cheeser

Agronomist et. al. -

There are currently seven states where spearfishing is still legal.

Alaska

Michigan

Minnesota

Montana

North Dakota

South Dakota

Wisconsin

I'll break it down state by state -

Alaska - residents and non-residents permitted. Rough fish and Pike with special regs for certain lakes.

Michigan - residents and non-residents permitted. Rough fish, Pike and Muskellunge with special regs for certain lakes.

Minnesota - resident only. Rough fish and Pike with special regs for certain lakes.

Montana - resident and non-resident. Rough fish and multiple game fish with special regs for various regions.

North Dakota - residents and non-residents from the following states: AK, MI, MT, SD and WI. Rough fish and Pike with special regs for certain lakes.

South Dakota - resident and non-residents. Rough fish and multiple game fish with special regs for certain lakes.

Wisconsin - resident and non-residents. Wisconsin is a little different, they only allow for rough fish on certain lakes. I believe you are restricted to a 12" diameter hole?! (Maybe someone from WI can help me on this) They also have a sturgeon spearing season in February with special regs. Lakes Poygan, Winnecone & Butte des Morts had 500 permits that were available in a drawing. Entries had to be in by August 1st. However, you have until Oct. 31 to purchase a Sturgeon Spearing license for Lake Winnebago only. No permit restriction on Winnebago. Limit is one per season.

Ag, if I were you I would look at some of the lakes up in SD. Hamlin, Spink and Kingsbury counties to be exact.

--Mark

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Cheeser    0
Cheeser

Also, an ice saw and tongs work great for cutting a nice hole. There is a guy up in Winger that makes a good saw, perhaps MN Mike knows who I am talking about.

JasonTrout-ice-saw.jpg

--Mark

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
MN Mike    2
MN Mike

Oh yes, I'm suprised ' Fish ' ( a.k.a Fish Toys on FishingMN )as he is known is these parts hasn't chimed in on the board yet but I suppose he's in farmin' mode right now trying to get things tidy before freeze up. I did see him shipping a whole bunch of saws the other day so he must have been busy during the last rainy spell.

BOY, that must be one of his Alaskan version ice saws! That thing looks tall.

If you go spearing, Fish's handmade Ice Saw is a must in the aresonal.

Mike

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Early Riser    7
Early Riser

Cheeser,

I forgot about Montana spearing opportunities. If you read this will you give a little run down on your trip out there last winter with some of the guys from MN? Based on what I heard from Bob it was a great trip.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.
Sign in to follow this  



  • Posts

    • tacklejunkie
      Picked up some nice crappie and a couple eater walleyes on Allouez Bay the other day before the rains. Trolled crawlers with one light split shot and others with bottom bouncers. I was surprised at how big the crappie were
    • easyrider25
      ripped out some old boards that were well past their prime on my boat.  Any recomendations on what to replace them with?  They looked to be treated plywood but wondering if getting something different would work better.  Such as a piece of 1 x 12 pine and throwing a few coats of polyurethane on it as well?  The boards I am talking about are for the benches.   Also, replacing the seats in there as well.  Previous i had the the vinyl foam seats.  When shopping around i am seeing a lot of the molded plastics chairs.  Any preference out there for durability?  Vinyl rips but wondering if the molded crack or break?   Thanks for any feed back!
    • monstermoose78
      Off to wet a line !!
    • monstermoose78
      The flocks of geese are now flying over my house in the morning and evening, but when this happens Finn gets all jacked up. Like right now he is nudging me and running pawing at the window. A few minutes earlier when the first gaggle few over I was going to change the laundry and Finn raced down and sat by gun safe  whining.  Fishing reports have been great for crappies on the area lakes. Walleyes are not biting as well in lakes but when the rum is clearer that is the place to be. Bears any no quota hunters this might be your year to get a bear around here.  Deer seem to every where drive carefull.  Seeing some ducks flying around.  I have seen a few grouse and pheasants.
    • delcecchi
      I've been by a time or two trying to figure out which place is yours.   I was out on wakemup last night too.   Got nothing, on crawlers.  Started out at merry go round, went to "picnic island" (little island east/south of taylors).  rigged along edge of those two humps in like 18-25 feet.   Musky guys were coming so I turned.  They turned too, chunking baits in the vicinity of my boat.   Then some guys in a pontoon pulled up and anchored in front of me  and threw out bobbers.   Fished a while longer, and it was getting sort of dark so went home.   Weird.  I've been on those humps a bunch of times this year, and suddenly I get company.   And, even though it is a pretty big area they gravitated to where I was.  I'll be out today too, so if you need help with supervision, let me know.    But I will drive by to check out the new construction.   
    • gunner55
      Been getting a few on the weed line, early am when there's a little breeze, since the surface temps started coming down. That was about this month's full moon, for me. A very slow troll, fishing vertically, & just a 1/16 oz. jig.
    • delcecchi
      Still holding stable at 72 for the lest week or so
    • muskie-mike
      Finally, I try lead core every time I am up there and no luck so far..Seems the bite doesn't start til late August..Will try next week...thanks for the report...
    • CigarGuy
      Bottom bouncer/spinner/crawler.......lindy/leach,
    • Wakemup
      Thanks for the update cigarguy- were you lindy rigging?