Guests - If You want access to member only forums on FM. You will gain access only when you Sign-in or Sign-Up on Fishing Minnesota.

It's easy - LOOK UPPER right menu.

  • Announcements

    • Rick

      Members Only Fluid Forum View   08/08/2017

      Fluid forum view allows members only to get right to the meat of this community; the topics. You can toggle between your preferred forum view just below to the left on the main forum entrance. You will see three icons. Try them out and see what you prefer.   Fluid view allows you, if you are a signed up member, to see the newest topic posts in either all forums (select none or all) or in just your favorite forums (select the ones you want to see when you come to Fishing Minnesota). It keeps and in real time with respect to Topic posts and lets YOU SELECT YOUR FAVORITE FORUMS. It can make things fun and easy. This is especially true for less experienced visitors raised on social media. If you, as a members want more specific topics, you can even select a single forum to view. Let us take a look at fluid view in action. We will then break it down and explain how it works in more detail.   The video shows the topic list and the forum filter box. As you can see, it is easy to change the topic list by changing the selected forums. This view replaces the traditional list of categories and forums.   Of course, members only can change the view to better suit your way of browsing.   You will notice a “grid” option. We have moved the grid forum theme setting into the main forum settings. This makes it an option for members only to choose. This screenshot also shows the removal of the forum breadcrumb in fluid view mode. Fluid view remembers your last forum selection so you don’t lose your place when you go back to the listing. The benefit of this feature is easy to see. It removes a potential barrier of entry for members only. It puts the spotlight on topics themselves, and not the hierarchical forum structure. You as a member will enjoy viewing many forums at once and switching between them without leaving the page. We hope that fluid view, the new functionality is an asset that you enjoy .
Sign in to follow this  
cribbageboy

College for a "future" Conservation Officer

Recommended Posts

cribbageboy

I am a senior in high school, and am having a hard time deciding which college to go to. I would love nothing more to become a Conservation Officer, or at the very least do something in the wildlife management field. I have recieved several letters from Bemidji State University, and Itasca Community College, but are there any other choices. ICC offers a three year program, with the law enforcment being done in Hibbing. I like both ideas, but i just cant decide. If there are any CO's on here, your info would be greatly appreciated.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Wormdrowner

CB,

Fon Du Lac Tribal and Community College in Cloquet, Mn. has an excellent Law Enforcement program.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
cribbageboy

Thanks, I'll check that one out. Never heard of it.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
CSP

check out northland (thief river falls) too

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Code-Man

Well if your interested I wanted to be a CO also. I went to University of Minnesota Crookston. They have a Natural Resources with Law Enforcement program. Law Enforcement classes are ITV (tv) classes through Bemidji State University. Bemidji has a heck of a Law Enforcement/Criminal Justice program. When you are done with UMC you still need to go to Alex Tech for Skills. I have had friends go BSU way and UMC way. The guys going through BSU like it because if they want to get more in the law side they are qualified. UMC was a fun campus but some of the teachers were Richard Craniums but you'll get that in every campus. But you will need to be POST certified if you wana work in MN which is the only state to mandate that which means your a sheriff driving a pickup pretty much.

The conservation officer around the Perham/Ottertail area was formerly a Nebraska State Patrolmen. He told me he thought it would be cool and they were wanting a Cop that they could teach Natural Resources. So you could get just your 2 yr degree at a tech school and hope to try to get in or go your 4 yr degree and do the speedy skills the summer after you graduate. Alex tech has a special class that once you have a bachelor's degree they cut a lot of stuff out. If you have any questions feel free to email me codyfishinghill @ hotmail I didn't want to be a cop and I guess that is why I went into the agronomy side instead of the Natural Resources. But UMC I am a little biased since I went there but depending on what you wana do with your life you may wana try to get a 4 yr degree in criminal justice and try to get in that way. Hope I could help ya out some.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
MinnesotaMongo

And while you're in school, learn how to mix a good martini (that means, make connections). You can have all the education in the world and it won't help with being a Peace Officer - there are tons ahead of you with the same education.

Get to know people - intern, volunteer, hang out. Network.

Good luck...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Black_Bay

Lately the C.O.'s the DNR has been hiring have had a background in law enforcement, meaning they were city police, county sheriff, ect. There is a lot of competition for the C.O. jobs and the nod usually goes to those with experience. My advice is if you really are intent on being a C.O. get your degree and get that experience as a county sheriff or city cop then apply to the C.O. academy after a few years.

Check out this page of the DNR website. http://www.dnr.state.mn.us/jobs/careerinfo/co.html

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Scott K

As some of the others have stated there are alot of people seeking dnr positions, and only a limited amount of positions to be filled. I have had two people in my family want to become a c.o. my sister, went through all the schooling and now is a prison gaurd in Moose lake. My wife also went through all the law enforcement hoping to become a warden or a ranger. She did her intern so to speak as a city cop. She now isnt even in law enforcment, since she didnt want to be a cop, she wanted dnr. She got tired of trying to get in and found a different career.

I didnt tell you this to discourage you in any way. Just to let you know that you may get done with it all and have to settle with something else, do to the very few available positions, and the high number of people wanting to fill the few spots. Good luck! I hope it works out for you.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Dave S

If you're still interested in a DNR position, contact your local CO and schedule a ride along. My son also wants to become a CO after he graduates and planned a ride along with our CO.

The colleges that we looked at are:

1) UW Stevens Point (#1 in the nation for Natural Resources and recommended by many CO's that I have worked with)

2) Vermillion Community College (Be true to yourself if you definitely are 4 year degree material. If not, Vermillion would be a great place to get your 2 year degree)

3) UM Crookston. My son prefers Crookston over the others. Mainly because our tour of the campus was conducted by the actual professor himself. Not another student wearing skimpy shorts and not an admissions counselor.

Either of the above schools I think would be a good place to start, but decide what it is you truly want to do. As mentioned, there is a long waiting list and you could have just as much fun in your job working in Fisheries or as a Wildlife Biologist and make just as much as a CO.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Eric Wettschreck

Minnesota West community and Technical college in Worthington has a 2 year law enforcement program.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Swamp Scooter

I wanted to go that route as well but when all the hoops were exposed I decided I would rather do something else. If you love to hunt and fish you must remember you will be working EVERY opener. I agree with going the 4 year route to keep your options open. There are also Criminal Justice majors in the Cities as well. You might want to check them out and go that way.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
shedhunter

I would also suggest UW-Stevens Point. Someone said it before on this forum, but it is THE BEST natural resources school in the country. I went there and although I didn't major in natural resources, I took fisheries and wildlife classes as electives. Lots of hands-on learning. A friend of mine at school took the warden/police program. His intent was to be a warden, but he became a cop instead. My brother is currently at UW-SP trying to become a warden. As someone mentioned, get involved in EVERYTHING to separate yourself from the rest of the pack. Good luck.

Shedhunter

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Dave S

Also keep in mind of the other great states that would take you in as a CO. Some don't have the stringent requirements as MN, but the 4 year degree from UW Steven's Point is recognized nation wide.

I fogot to mention that one of the CO's that I have worked with started his degree at Bemidji and said in his opinion that it isn't even close to the courses offered by UWSP. Just a little food for thought.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
xedge2002

Cribbage - I am currently getting into the law enforcement field. I have a 4 year degree and attended Alex Tech for skills this summer. If you are thinking of doing a 2 year degree go to Alex, they have unbelievable instructors there that all have backgrounds in law enforcement. They can help you network and get you contacts with people in the DNR. Also their program is one of the top 2 year programs in the state. I would recommend a 4 year degree, because it will set you above anybody with a 2 year. I am currently finishing my master's, I will have it completed this fall, and I know it is already helping me get interviews and move up on hiring lists. I am currently in the top 4 for one department that is hiring at least 3 officers and have had my background completed by another department. They aren't giving offers right now but I was told by the chief my chances for that dept are very good for getting hired. I have a friend who is also getting his masters with the intention of becoming a CO and he said the degree will help him some.

Another thing with getting into law enforcement that I never thought about when I was your age is to keep your nose clean. With going to college you will probably drink some, don't get a minor, don't get into fights (tends to happen when young men and alcohol mix at college for some reason grin.gif) watch your driving habits, and DO NOT get a DWI!! That is the one thing that is a huge turn off for departments. Also when you apply be COMPLETELY honest with the department. If you try and hide something in your past, they WILL find it. If you screwed up, admit it and learn from your mistakes! I have heard of people going from #1 on a hiring list to not even on it because they tried to hide something in their background. That goes with you to every dept you apply to after that as well, they will go to the dept you got bounced from and find out why and that will go into their decision on hiring you.

When this department did my background they were out talking to people I work with, my high school teachers, college teachers, Skills instructors and the police departments in every town I have lived in.

Sorry I got a little off the path but figured I would try and give you a leg up!

I would also suggest doing a ride along with a CO. You will see what their everyday job is like and can find out what they like and don't like about the job. Also you could try contacting a recruiter for the DNR and see if they can suggest a good college for becoming a CO.

Good Luck!!

If you have any questions let me know I would be glad to help you out. Either post on here or my email is j _ orbeck @ yahoo

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
cribbageboy

I just wanted to thank everyone for the feedback. It is opening up so many choices. I love to hunt and fish, and to preserve that right for future hunters would be a tremendious honor. After talking on the phone with a former CO, he highly recommended a 4 year degree regardless fo where it came from. Thanks again for all of the information.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Hitman54

Cribbageboy,

In my opinion,

4year = UW Stevens Point

2year = VCC in Ely, MN

I have worked in student services at four different colleges for the past 15 years and if DNR/CO is what you want then I think these two programs would be what your looking for. Many of the other schools mentioned are also good. You need to visit the schools and get a feel for the campus and atmosphere. Don't go somewhere you don't feel comfortable!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Powerstroke

Crib, I think its great that you want to be a CO. One of the biggest things about being a CO is that you are a cop first. Thats the one thing people lose when they dream about being a CO. You are a cop first, that just happens to work outdoors and operates in the fields that so many people call hobbies.

I guess I say that cause not everyone who wants to be a CO really wants to be a cop. Its a very important distinction.

I am in my late 20's and just started school this fall for my Law Enforcement degree. I plan on being a CO someday too. I've done many ride-alongs with cops and with CO's and I volunteered at the CO training academy.

I also spoke with the DNR recruitment person and the most important thing he told me is that it doesn't matter that much about where you went to school. He said that the majority of their candidates are weeded out at the written test. After that you have several face-to-face interviews. He told me its totally about how you act as a person and how you perform. Just because you attended the best schools and were in every club on campus doesn't mean you will make a good cop.

I've spoken with 3 CO's who were hired in the last 5 yrs who had no experience in Law Enf. and only had a 2yr Community COllege degree in LE. 2 were under 25yrs old and 1 was almost 40 and decided to follow his dream.

If you really want to be a COP then go for it. Thats the most important thing. Get that under your belt first and foremost. Meet local cops and do ride-alongs there. If you know its for you then being a CO won't be a problem.

Good luck and I'll see you at the academy.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
MNBIGBEAR

I went through the 2 year law enforcement program in Hibbing and I have to say it is an excellent program. Vermilion Community College is also a good program but centers more on the park ranger aspect I think. Actually, I recently took the test for conservation officer and just received notification that I passed it and will be moving on to the interview process. I know CO's that have gotten a job with no more than a 2 year law enforcement degree. Granted the additional schooling will pad your resume, I dont think it is absolutely necessary. Its like any job, you get some experience in law enforcement and start doing some ride alongs with CO's, eventually you will get a job. One guy I know tested and interviewed mulitiple times with them before finally getting hired. Good Luck with whatever route you choose and let me know if theres any other questions I might be able to answer for you. And just a footnote, when I first started the program all I wanted to be was a CO but when I got into more, I could really see myself in alot of different areas of law enforcement. As mentioned in an earlier post, You have to want to be a Cop first.....just being able to do it in the woods and on a lake is just a bonus of being a CO.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Bassboy1645

Im at Vermilion CC in ely right now majoring in their NRT PROGRAM. Natural Resources Technology- Foresty/wildlife. I couldnt have picked a better school to go. The instructors are excellent and feauture many well known names in the area and the profession. If you love to hunt and fish and associate with people like you ITS top notch! But dont come here for the women haha!!!! Theres 8 guys to every girl!!! grin.gifgrin.gif Im probably gonna transfer to Stevens point after my 2 yrs here. If your scared of transition or dont want the whole college experience at once Vcc is awesome to get in the college mode and isnt too hard compared to a four yr. Plus I really like the small setting comign from a small high school. The instructors get to know you well and vice versa. hope I could help

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Rost

SDSU- Brookings SD

Not only do you get a great education, but you get to enjoy some of the finest hunting and fishing in the midwest while attending.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
hoggsback

Minnesota State U- Mankato, or Mankato State U as I remember it.

I have my 4-year B.S. in L.E. from there. Program was great when I was there 11 years ago. I'm sure it has only gotten better over time. They also have the skills portion there through Hibbing Tech.

I would go for the 4 year degree. Most departments are now looking for that versus a 2 year.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
heavyduty

I too thought about a DNR job when i was in high school 15 years ago. the two words of advice I got were get your pilots licence ( from a C.O.). Get a math degree in statistics, probably won't help with a C.O. job but will help to get a job in the department.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.
Sign in to follow this  



  • Posts

    • muskie-mike
      I have a data plan thru ATT on my ipad,$30 a month for 3g...Also can make my ATT phone a wifi hotspot..ATT tower is south of Frazer bay
    • DLD24
      Is it always impossible to get a hold of Jeff?? It took me like 8 calls to get a hold of him, brought my boat down after I got a hold of him. I told him I was hoping to use it this weekend for one last trip...I've called him multiple times for an update and he never answers... Seems odd for a business.
    • MinnowBuckets
      You know it’s a good day when you’re thumb looks like that from lipping the fish! What sizes are you getting right now, Rick?
    • Rick G
      Last two days have been incredible for both size and numbers
    • Rick
      Recreational netting for whitefish and tullibee (cisco) is anticipated to open on several Schedule I Lakes in the Grand Rapids fisheries work area beginning in late October, according to the Minnesota Department of Natural Resources. Schedule I Lakes, which are more susceptible to sudden changes that impact water temperatures, will be opened and closed on a 48-hour notice posted at lake accesses, other public places, and the DNR website. Schedule II Lakes, will open Nov. 3. Schedule I Lakes (48 hour notice) Anticipated opening dates are as follows: Friday, Oct. 27 through Sunday, Dec.3, for Deer (near Deer River), and Turtle (3.5 inch mesh). Friday, Nov. 3 through Sunday, Dec. 10, for Side and South Sturgeon (1.75 inch mesh). Friday, Nov. 10 through Sunday, Dec. 10, for Big Balsam and Nashwauk (1.75 inch mesh). Schedule II Lakes Lakes open to whitefish and cisco sport netting Friday, Nov. 3 through Sunday, Dec. 10: Bass (north basin). Ball Club. Bowstring*. Little Bowstring. Cut Foot Sioux*. Deer (near Effie). Grave. Jessie. Maple. Pokegama. Round (near Squaw Lake –1.75 inch mesh). Rush Island. Sand (near Max)*. Swan.  (1.75 inch mesh) Twin Lakes (near Marble). Winnibigoshish* and Little Winnibigoshish* (1.75 inch mesh). *Bowstring, Cut Foot Sioux, Sand, Winnibigoshish and Little Winnibigoshish are designated infested waters because of the presence of faucet snails or zebra mussels. Nets and equipment used in infested waters may not be used in any other waterbody unless they have been dried for ten days or frozen for two days. Fishing regulations require that: Netters purchase both a whitefish netting license and angling license. A person may use only one gill net, not exceeding 100 feet in length and 3 feet in width. One end of net must have a pole, stake, or buoy projecting at least two feet above the surface of the water or ice. Nets must have an identification tag attached near the first float of the end that is projecting from the surface of the water or ice. Identification tags must be a minimum of 2 ½ inches by 5/8 inch permanently bearing the name and address of the owner. Identification tags for marking nets are provided by the owner. Nets may not be set after sunset or raised before sunrise. All gill nets must be set and lifted by the licensee only. Anyone assisting in the taking of whitefish or ciscoes must have proper licensing. Nets must be tended at least once every 24 hours and all gamefish and non-target species must be immediately released from the net. A net may not be set in any water deeper than six feet. A net may not be set within 50 feet of another net. Minimum gill net mesh size shall be no less than 1-3/4 or 3-1/2 inch stretch measure depending on the lake (see full list of lake and size regulations online). Nets used in designated infested waters must be dried for a minimum of 10 days or frozen for 2 days before using in a different water body. Nets should be dried for 10 days or frozen for 2 before moving from any lake to another. Nets used in spiny water flea and/or zebra mussel infested waters should be not used in any other waterbody Nets should be transported in sealed container. Whitefish and ciscoes taken by sport gill-netting may not be bought or sold. Whitefish and ciscoes taken by sport gill-netting may not be used as bait. Within the Leech Lake Reservation boundaries, the possession limit for whitefish taken by sport gill-netting is 25, and the possession limit for ciscoes taken by sport gill-netting is 50. Net placement should not inhibit use of the lake by other boaters. About 700 people obtain special permits to net for whitefish-tullibee each year. The DNR bases netting schedules on expected water temperatures, fish abundance and vulnerability of game fish. As the water temperature cools, game fish head to deeper water and whitefish-tullibee come to shallow water for fall spawning.  Netting is allowed when there is little chance that game fish populations would be negatively impacted by recreational netting in shallow water. Find information about sport netting by lake, minimum mesh sizes, and fishing regulations at http://files.dnr.state.mn.us/rlp/regulations/fishing/whitefish-tullibee.pdf or contact the DNR’s Grand Rapids area office at 1201 East Highway 2, Grand Rapids, MN 55744, or call 218-328-8836. Discuss below - to view set the hook here.
    • bbfenatic
      It seemed cheap to me for all the functionality.
    • Coleman
      I think I'll give it a try today.  Looks like it could be windy, which can help a bit with the down river drift.   I might try to get out Sunday as well after the game.  But, I think it's time to start putting the summer toys away for the year.  Just not the boat yet.  Will keep that out for a another 2-3 weeks.  Will tell you how I do if I get out today.   Another thing I'll add.  I've fished above the SCSU dam a bit this time of year.  Always just went a bit north of the Wilson Park landing and pulled some cranks along the east banks.  Normally did pretty well. Would normally work all the way up past the Hospital.  
    • fishingdad
            I was wondering if anybody that lives on the lake has Satellite Internet Service?  If you do I have a couple of questions-  Who is it through?  What does it cost for the applicable data plan you have?  Do you have any complaints, compliments, concerns about it.         I would like to sign up & do it but I don't want to regret having a 2 year commitment or similar & find out it is bad-horrible connection. Do you burn through the Data extremely fast?  We are up to the cabin almost every weekend April - October  & then every other through the winter so not being there enough isn't the issue just wanting to justify having it.  
    • ZachD
      250 bucks no thanks
    • Bobber221
      Can anyone report on fishing on Rainy River this week?