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SJonesi

Boat Landings-Be Aware

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SJonesi    0
SJonesi

Twice in the past 2 weeks I've had "incidents" at boat landings. I put in at private landings due to all problems(low water, vandalism, theft) at the public ramps.Pulling the boat out late night is becoming an adventure.Last week it was the drunk that didn't like muskies or muskie fishermen. I had a client with me and he was pretty freaked out.This guy hammered us while his buddy didn't say a word."I'm gonna kill every muskie I catch", blah, blah, blah.I kept my cool and did nothing to instigate/stir the pot.This past Saturday, I was pulling the boat by myself at about 1am. I notice 2 younger guys leave the bar and walk down to the landing area.Having grown up in the big city, I've always thought it important to be aware of your surroundings.Sure enough ,here come "dumb and dumber". Couldn't have expected the verbal barrage I was about to recieve. I did nothing and took the abuse. About what you ask? My Ranger boat of course.These scumbags were ready to throw down over a boat?????? I finished packing up and drove away. I'll remember these 2 jokers. They looked like the # 10.One was taller, skinny and bald and the other was short and fat with "wanna be" gold chains. He also bragged about his Yar Craft with a 300.I'm sure someone on here will know these guys from their boat.I'm posting this to make others aware and because I'm MAD!!!!!!I've thought long and hard about these episodes and refuse to be a victim.Nothing really bad happened , but it could have.My kids deserve to have their Dad around. I will be prepared if there is a next time and will put my faith in our legal system.Self defense , right?? Be nice or be gone. Steve

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JDM    0
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May I ask at which resort this took place? I bring my kids all the time and since these kinds of people have a tendency to hang out in the same kind of places, I would rather do everything I can to reduce the odds of such things. I know the policies on this website and such, but in my opinion, this is a safety issue for the members.

I took a MMA champ fishing last Tuesday. Too bad they didn't come up to us that day. That may have been interesting...... grin.gif

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rodmaker    0
rodmaker

I always have had good luck launching at Agate Bay over the last 3 years. May want to give that a try.

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Tim L    0
Tim L

Man what is this world coming too reminds me of at my aunts Funeral had some guys harrassing my uncles about there big fancy cars they were driving, been pretty crazy at the casino access but still ain't seen no fist flying most people understand it's a big circus and been pretty cool!!!

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Corey Bechtold    2
Corey Bechtold

Just remember this saying... "No hablo ingles"... and that should take care of it. grin.gif

Sorry to hear about the incident. Nobody needs to be like that. What ever happened to "Minnesota Nice"?

Good luck,

Corey Bechtold

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Deitz Dittrich    4
Deitz Dittrich

Steve, great to see you back on the boards!!! Would still like to hook up with you some time! Bummer about the jerk!.. hate that stuff... I myself had to come back to the landing to see a dude cleaning his limmit of bass to which he put the guts in the landing garbage that went out today that I have to pull to the curb to be trashed.. YUCK.. thats going to reek next monday!

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SJonesi    0
SJonesi

Dietz,

Yeah man, the Kid is back. Too bad my return post has to be of this nature.It's really too bad we even have to worry about this stuff when we're fishin'. Fire with fire.Call me anytime. Steve

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Paul Waldowski    0
Paul Waldowski

Steve,

Check your mail box.

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elusivecrappiecatcher    7
elusivecrappiecatcher

These are the type of people that act all tough but when confronted probably tuck there tail and run. If it was me at that boat lunch and I had some punk kids do that to me I would have tried my tactic. Granted I am 6'6 250lbs, I would have grabbed the tire iron from the truck and would have turned around and asked which one wanted a shot at the title first. That is about the time they probably would think twice about what they got themselves into. I have done it before. I avoid the violence as much as I can and honestly have never had to do anything because the intimidation factor always gets them.

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cjac    0
cjac

Now I feel even worse about not being there with you last Saturday evening. Sorry Dude! I should've been there!

Chris

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TrophyEyes    0
TrophyEyes

I am a little smaller than that 5'9". But the trick I have found is make sure they know you don't care who wins. I like the phrase "You might take me in a bum rush but I am taking at least 2 of you with me. So sign the dotted line and we can finish this at the hospital when we wake up." Not many guys want to be the first guy in, and if they do, you better do everything you can to end it quick because he probably can handle himself. That is only if I feel like getting into it......otherwise I put my head down and keep doing what I am doing. Best advice would be to call the cops though. I don't condone violence or fighting, especially with weapons. But sometimes you have to defend yourself. Most of these guys won't do anything....but you never know.

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NEANGLER    6
NEANGLER

"You ever been to gravel school, No? Well your about to experience it!" HAs worked a few times for me in the past. Learened this phrase from a 75 year old duck hunter. grin.gif

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fishorgolf    0
fishorgolf

Trophyeyes, you sound like somebody I want covering my back. Size don't mean S__T it's all additude. I never look for touble but if it comes to me....

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TrophyEyes    0
TrophyEyes

Unfortunately now a days you have to be very careful because its not just fists and clubs, its become knives and guns. I am heading out to Boston this weekend and that is a place you don't want to be acting tough if you don't have the backing. You get the wrong guy and you are in a world of hurt. Luckily we are going to a wedding where half of the company is how do I say this kindly.....ever seen the Sopranos? They are only one or two generations removed from Italy and everything that implies. I won't mess with them if I had a bat an the first ten licks. Good thing their on my side. There are some people you just back away from. I wouldn't mess with people in downtown MPLS either, depending on the corner. You just don't know which punk has a gun or knife on them. Crazy world we live in. Stay safe.

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pitchn    1
pitchn

CAN'T WE JUST ALL GET ALONG???...

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nofishfisherman    10
nofishfisherman

I think we can all stop acting so tough now, I think we all get it were are all big tough guys. All though I am sure everyone likes the thought that they would be the one to give these guys the beating that they might deserve I doubt it will ever happen. Its a new generation now, you don't know who's carrying a weapon these days. You all have been quoting some pretty funny stuff about how tough we can all be but the one saying that might trump them all is "Don't bring a knife to a gun fight" or in this case maybe "Don't bring a tire iron to a gun fight".

If someone is hastling you call the cops thats what they get paid for. Or if you see them leave a resort go in and talk to the owners and tell them that their boys out here are causing a problem. I bet most resort owners don't want these kinds of guys hanging around and will most likely stop serving them in the future.

I would just hate to see one of you guys have your bluff called by someone not thinking properly, remember the conceal and carry laws apply to the guys you are facing as well.

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harvey lee    13
harvey lee

I use to get real upset and say thuings to some at the landing that I will never state again. It use to be the way to settle things was with words, then fists and now guns and knives.

I dont say anything anymore as I do fear the dude's that carry weapons and there are more of them out there than one thinks. Cool head and walk away is my new approach.

I will just try to get a license plate and call the police.

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bturck    38
bturck

Nice to have that permit to carry just in case. I'd sooner by judged by 12 than buried by 6. Not looking for trouble either, but 9 years in law enforecment have taught me the bad guys don't play fair. bill

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Shack    16
Shack

I must be lucky!

Besides some (contact me please) running into my trailer light, while I had trailer backed into water and I was heading towards it in my boat (this year), I have never had an issue at launch. I load at questionable places at all hours of the night and Mille Laces and again never had an issue.

Maybe it my looks or demeanor, but the only thing that roll's up on me is the police. All they ask is what I am going for and what did I catch.

I think dumb luck does play a little in life situations, but many things hinder on attitudes. I seem to get along with drunks and I figure this has kept me out of allot of stuff over the years. I own a bass boat (its no ranger) and again have had no problems.

Maybe it the look of my "Westside" brother in-law that scares them off. He looks a little Mexican grin.gif

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tight_line    0
tight_line

Just 3 words for you... "Conceal and Carry". Too many kooks out there in the world today.

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Big_Cahuna    0
Big_Cahuna

bturck,

How does one go about getting a permit? I've been out of my home state for quite some time. I've been around guns all my life and in the military. It's like being over seas. You watch where you are and you look out for your friends. I always avoid the issues and any bravado I may have had disolved when my first son was born. Now I do my thing and so far have been pretty lucky from the sound of it. I think getting a permit to conceal and having a cool head sounds like a safe way to go. You never know where the bad guys might turn up. Thanks!

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bturck    38
bturck

Big Cahuna: Contact our local police department. Depending on the size of the city you live in they will take the application or perhaps refer you to the Sheriffs Office. Once the background checks are completed you will need to go through an approved course of instruction (regardless of your background with firearms) this will also include time at the range. Even though I am former law enforcement I had to go through all of it as well. Bill

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Big Cahuna: Contact your local police department. Depending on the size of the city you live in they will take the application or perhaps refer you to the Sheriffs Office. Once the background checks are completed you will need to go through an approved course of instruction (regardless of your background with firearms) this will also include time at the range. Even though I am former law enforcement I had to go through all of it as well. Bill

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Bigsmitty    1
Bigsmitty

Wow interesting thread. I used to love a good fist fight but not nowadays. To many weapons in the hands of crazy people.

Heres my question to you guys. Say you do have a conceal permit. At what point of the confrontation do you pull your weapon. And better yet..... when do you use it? Scarey thought. Now im all for the conceal carry law and Im seriously considering it. But I have always wondered what would be the last straw the makes me pull it out. Any thoughts?

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