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fdr01

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fdr01

i was down at calhoun yesterday and this guy was northern/muskie fishing and he didnt have a net,jaw spreader,forseps/hook remover you know all the things you need when you catch said fish.well he caught a nice 32-37" tiger gave my kids the thrill of the day and he had nothing to land the fish.one guy had a net that was too small and a pliers.so after they dragged the fish to shore they struggled with tring to remove the hook which was down far so i went over to give em a hand one guy almost stuck his finger in its mouth and the other guy was stepping on it.so i gave them my jaw spreader and took over holding the fish down after what seemed like forever the guy got his hook out and i am happy to say this fish was put back(after a long discussion about its lenth) and after a little while swam off the guy than said he was going to go get a spreader and pliers but i guess i cant believe he didnt have one.these are two things i bought one my first trip to gander mt way back and have saved my butt on numerous occasions i just think if youre going fishing having the proper equipment to take the fish off your hook and get it back in the water should be regulated also,im not talking about a long list but just some basics,so what do some of you guys think?fdr

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MuleShack

I would have to say that if your going after a specialized fish like the pike or Muskie, you should have the proper equipment. It is again, "common sense", but as we all know, this wasn't a standard issue item at birth....so some are with out it. I dont think it should be regulated though, however that subject could be open to debate. If the fish are protected with a slot and they have to be released quickly, one should have the tools neccesary to be able to do that.

Now that i have been on both sides of the fence, i guess there is a case there for some regulation?

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fdr01

any muskie in calhoun has to be 40" to be kept so this one was too small and if it died would basically been kept out of the slot,i have caught and have seen my share of northerns/muskies caught on calhoun and this was the 1st time i was accually worried about the fish not making it.fdr

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Jameson

Please, no more regulations.

A respectable ethical fishermen will bring along necessary hook removal equipment if they know to do so. These same folks would follow a regulation if it was in place.

A fishermen with questionable ethics, or one who is uneducated(experienced) will not worry about bringing along proper hook removal equipment. These same folks may not pay much attention to additional regulations.

Maybe some signs at boat launches or bait shops to remind anglers to bring along proper hook removal equipment would be helpful.

Or is it time for a Angler Training Course? Muck like a Firearms Safety Class. No fishing license until you pass the Angler Training Course.

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fdr01

now that i would have to agree with except for me you and alot of the other guys/gals on this site that already know how to fish and what to bring.its the same as knowing that you have a slot limit it is up to the induvidual to know the rules and being able to release fish so there is no harm done to them is just as important as not keeping 7 eyes or a muskie under 40"s

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MuleShack

back to that common sense thing again.... :: wink.gif

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fdr01

our kids and grandkids are screwed frown.gif

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pikehunter78

Yikes!

Had this person ever seen the mouth of even a small pike up close before??? If you're going to fish Pike, big or small, you need at a minimum a good net and pliers. If not for the good of the fish, at least for the safety of your hands an fingers smile.gif

I like the Angler's education course idea. I took firearms safety in 6th grade because I wanted to hunt, but there were a lot of other kids that took it because their parents wanted them to know how to fear and respect firearms. Some of those kids turned into avid hunters on their own. Could be a good push to get young anglers involved.

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SkunkedAgain

I like the course idea, although I bet the DNR would nix the concept because it would keep out-of-staters from easily getting a license and coming into the state on fishing vacations. If I was from Iowa and looking to fish in MN or WI, I'd go to the place where I didn't have to take a course prior to getting a license.

I guess that you could call the TIP line if you see somebody kill a protected fish because they didn't bring the right equipment.

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pikehunter78

SkunkedAgain,

Your tagline is the best one I've seen on this site yet. It's funny because it's true!

It would be a good charity or PR move for Gander Mountain or Cabella's to offer community a Community Ed course on fishing basics and ethics through the schools. Maybe charge $15 bucks for class/material but give a $10 gift card upon completion or something. It would probably still be profitable because I know I can never walk into Gander and spend less than $10

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SkunkedAgain

Thanks, but I can't take credit since I stole it from somewhere long ago. I'm a believer in always looking at the bright side of things.

So last night I spoke with my brother in Tempe, whom I just taught to fish last year. I asked him if he's got a set of pliers that he takes to go fishing down there. He assured me that he did, although I believe that this post can be a good reminder for all of us to think about people we know that may not know and/or follow the unwritten rules of fishing.

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LwnmwnMan2

How about this for a "for-instance"??

I'm going to do some assuming here.

Whenever someone buys a Muskie / Northern bait, whether spinner, whatever, the bait shop hands them a little "flyer", much like the size of your Twins pocket schedule.

Sales person says "I see you're going to be fishing for some larger fish. We'd like you to read this, because there may be some extra equipment that you might need in your boat, if for no other reason, to save your own fingers."

It'd be a way for baitshop owner person to get purchaser guy to turn around and buy more stuff, if they don't already have it.

OR, even more simple, have 2-3-4 signs in the Muskie / Northern aisles at the baitstore showing and explaining why purchaser guy should get the other stuff.

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fdr01

yeah i hear ya,they used to do it with tying knots,why not what you might need to release said fish.now that is a good idea grin.gif

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