Dude...you just trolling for an argument or what. You have to be the 1st person to label me as a liberal.

Straight from the forum policy, just in case you have not read it yet.



And if "whiney liberal" is not name calling or labeling, what exactly is it?

I agree. Definitely inappropriate badgering for the intended purpose of provoking more than just thought. There is no need to attack one's person as that is a surefire way to close this thread down.

Bob

Hey Joey, I can appreciate your passion but to label upnorth as a liberal is off the mark. Just stop into this forum once and awhile and you will find plenty of true liberals to bash

maybe if you people would have read what I wrote, you would have seen that I gave two options,
1. IF you don't like going to amusement parks, then don't go. (that is okay)
2. IF you just want to complain, then you are a whiney lib.

Now I'm a thug?

Should I complain about that?
What is worse of an insult, being called a liberal, or being called a thug?
I think the latter.

But yet you support that, though he didn't even start with the word "IF".
AND i was misquoted by upnorth... (take a few words out of a sentence and anything will sound bad)

Yet croixflats flat out called me a "Thug",
Me, the one person who told us to stand up for whats right?
The one person who didn't say if they were there they would have shot a gun in the air?
The one person who isn't just "puffing their chest"!?
The one person who didn't say they would jump in and join in the fight?!

While the majority of you have turned this in to a gun totin' issue!?!
I don't understand you.
(Read the posts from other people if you don't know what I'm talking about.)


WHO IS A THUG? ME?
MAYBE... but at least i'm not going to stand for the degredation of this great country.
at least i'm not going to run and hide from the hard work that the people of valley fair have done, as well as all that is good about something as trivial as Valley Fair.

AND, I'm sure as heck not going to let some lib's tell me that I am a "thug" because I can see clearly, while he sits and compares me, someone who stands for whats right, to the real "thugs" that beat an innocent man down, while letting others in this forum talk about how they should have had guns and even unloaded them to stop the beatdown...

Croixflats, you want to single me out? Go ahead, I'm not scared. Get on topic.

And upnorth, I wasn't talking to you untill you said i was acting unaccordingly to the rules of this website.

I have not.

I'm done with this post, should anyone read this, understand that America is on a short slope downhill because people such as those people in this forum who continually turn their head to these acts of increased violence, and shut down people who are trying to defend this great country. They overlook the whole topic and relation to the times that we live. They feel offended and attack the people that are saying what is needed to be said. They feel offended by words like "whiney" and "liberal", and look past the fact that that is the exact reason that evil is feeding on OUR country.

Good luck America.

No Joey, a whiny lib would say things like:
Maybe we should look at the greater disease that keeps turning out these young men who are habitual criminals. Perhaps our educational system is failing these kids in some way. Or maybe they don't see any hope in a brighter future, or perhaps they harbor some ill feelings towards a society that has abandoned them and left them with nothing. No responsible parents, no teachers who either care, or have given up, minimum wage jobs that are being given to illegal residents, no health care on and on.

But hey, it's easier to form a posse and club these youngsters into submission than change our culture.

Now that's what a whiny lib would say.

An "Oops, my bad. My passion got the better of me", or possibly even going back and editing your reponse would go a long way here Joey.

This threads a goner.....

Kid, I grow up with a drunk for and old man that beat my mother, and educational system that just wanted to get rid on me because I wasn't going to amount to anything, dirt poor and what looked like no future and I didn't end up hanging out at and amusement pack slapping 13 year old girls on the butt. So this "society has let me down" [PoorWordUsage] just does not cut it in my book. It is so easy to blame anyone but yourself for your problems instead of looking in the mirror and taking responsibility for your own actions. We all have a "choice" of how we live our lives.

I see no need for changes in the post. Didn't see anyting as a personal attack. Can't dispute the name calling charge but who was it aimed at? Specific FM members or society as a whole? Saw a lot of truth that I would guess the general viewership whole heartedly agrees with.

Big thanks to Rick for this forum. I bet this one far more than any other causes you to lose sleep.

"Political correctness is just tyranny with manners. I wish for you the courage to be unpopular. Popularity is history's pocket change. Courage is history's true currency." -- Charlton Heston

irvdog,
I can't believe you would say that, be it that you have a quote from charleton heston that completly contradicts what you are suggesting that I do.

no thanks, the only one personaly reffered to as a thug was joeyquicksand.

... but i'm okay with that, i can handle it. I am not calling for any end to a thread. I can handle my own.

Mr. Heston was the picture of civility. Ultra strong in his beliefs, but always civil.

Quoting someone, then refering to them as whiney? Not civil, and definitely arguementative. But different people see things different ways.

By the way, I definitely respect your fierce loyalty to law abiding citizens, and your pledge to resist decay.

"Political correctness is just tyranny with manners"
ps..
I know, i brush my teeth at least twice a day.

pps...
its not about law abiding citizens, its about one dude on eight.

This just became a ---- show just cant look away

After reading 8 pages to catch up my brain is like oatmeal.

Joey, could you be more right? I don't think so.

This is out and out lawlessness and I for one will have none of it. I see to many victims realing for the rest of thier lives due to this type of nonsense. I won't be the one hiding or wondering what happened in your upbringing to creat such a person. What do just men do? cower!

After being shot in the hand in chicago in 1978 while on my way to an art exhibit, my veiw of all this changed and I relized that I don't have to roll over. You can go through life living it or avoiding it.

Personal belief in God, Country and Family are worth protecting and guns and pepper spray and stun guns are the equalizers some folks need to get on with living, because we have so much to live for vs. criminals that only act on base instinct and not law and order.

go! Joe man GO!

Croixflats, out of my respect for you I will not assume you are refering to my life as a
______show and that you were refering to something else in this thread.

I was referring to the thread, though I do invite you to fish with me on the St.Croix